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Curtis2011 - Jun 02, 2014 10:44pm
I don't see how anyone could be "offended" by calling Soylent superior food. And frankly, Soylent is designed to be superior to normal food to begin with. No normal food that grows in nature has the perfect nutritional values that Soylent has. Also I…
sp1d3rx - Jun 02, 2014 10:40pm
I wouldn't worry so much about that, I think the issue is that xylitol is expensive and that's one of the main reasons why it wouldn't see a large market. Also, most studies are talking about 4 grams a day or less, not 40 grams. It's made from trees,…
Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies - Jun 02, 2014 10:33pm
IEET Affilaite Scholar takes a look at the new craze of food enthusiasts: Soylent. Soylent was developed from a need for a simpler food source. Creator Robert Rhinehart and team developed Soylent after recognizing the disproportionate amount of time and…
axcho - Jun 02, 2014 10:13pm
Hey, @axcho here. Yes, I've been talking with @Spaceman about creating a marketplace for DIY soylent. Sure, he's been a bit overzealous (spammy) in his self-promotion on this forum, but I think his heart is in the right place, and he has a lot to offer…
biab - Jun 02, 2014 9:55pm
delusion said: The only thing I don't like about spaceman/this site is taking advantage of the same marketshare and slamming soylent at the same time. A year ago I would have agreed with you. At this point, I don't know when to expect my order (placed…
OneLuckyContestant - Jun 02, 2014 9:50pm +6
Now that Soylent 1.0 has been in the wild for a bit, I am curious if anyone has a favorite bottle that they would like to recommend. I noticed that the Soylent team listed a few on the blog, but I would like to hear from folks with real world experience.…
delusion - Jun 02, 2014 9:46pm
The only thing I don't like about spaceman/this site is taking advantage of the same marketshare and slamming soylent at the same time. It's classier to respect the competition, but it's personal taste, I guess. Don't get me wrong, though. I'm glad there's…
jahhluv101 - Jun 02, 2014 9:44pm
What exactly is you objection? Because quite frankly I trust him more now. He isnt just selling his own. He is selling others as well. I fail to see anything problematic or nefarious about that site.
sp1d3rx - Jun 02, 2014 9:36pm
As far as I am aware our digestive systems are not capable of converting mass into energy at the atomic level. Wouldn't that be nice, to have our own nuclear power plants inside our own bodies! I think you missed the point, I'd like to see them study…
gueste - Jun 02, 2014 9:35pm
it's not him alone, its a cooperation between @axcho and @spaceman - they are doing the community a favor, enjoy the new service instead of criticizing their enthusiasm!as far as I understand the site it's open for other DIY products as well (for example…
gueste - Jun 02, 2014 9:33pm
this it what it says on the contact page: @axcho and @spaceman decided to make a marketplace where everyone can offer and order their own soylent according to popular DIY formulas. We believe that such a “farmers market” will help to diversify options…
gannas - Jun 02, 2014 9:32pm
I hit the site and went to the marketplace. First thing I noticed was spaceman's wares being peddled with the same layout hallmarks from his site. Is this run by the same guy? He's been so pervasive and pushy I absolutely don't trust him now.
unsynchronized - Jun 02, 2014 9:31pm
sp1d3rx said: perhaps Soylent has more than is required, and whatever is being excreted can be removed from the inputs so that eventually you have no excrement. If that were true you would gain about 0.5 kg per day, as the mass has to go somewhere.…
ruipacheco - Jun 02, 2014 9:29pm
Stumbled upon this somewhere on the interweb. What do you think? http://www.powderedfoods.com/
vanclute - Jun 02, 2014 9:08pm
austonst said: The trick (maybe), @vanclute, is to drop the ball in after you've put in the powder, or maybe even after your first bit of shaking. Yep, very good point. If I were to use one again (haven't felt the need) I would drop it in at the…
InfinityX - Jun 02, 2014 8:56pm
I can corroborate reduced frequency and quantity. Highly preferable for someone like me who has endured chronic digestive problems throughout life.
GnollBelle - Jun 02, 2014 8:45pm +2
My grandad has dementia and has pretty much refused to eat for the past three days. The lack of calories and nutrition is obviously having a huge impact on his energy levels and brain function. But he is still drinking some, so I'm hopeful that soylent…
CarltonLemley - Jun 02, 2014 8:00pm
Before you go running any marathons, check out my blog post on my first physical exercise on Soylent. You may need to supplement. As for the actual poo, the fact that there is so much less (both quantity and frequency) would seem to me to be a benefit…
sp1d3rx - Jun 02, 2014 7:51pm
You know, a lot of people say that those olestra chips were bad, but never tried them, and the media made wildly inaccurate reporting that made it seem like everyone who had it would have explosive diarrhea. I've tried them and liked them. In fact, some…
CarltonLemley - Jun 02, 2014 7:50pm
Vanclute, always the ultimate resource. One thing I will say is that I was surprised there wasn't more stratification with my Soylent until I made a batch without the blender. I'd estimate the separation was reduced by 80% or so when using the blender.…
austonst - Jun 02, 2014 7:44pm
For my DIY, I started off using a blender, but found it to be hard to clean. I had to take apart everything to clean the little bits under the blades, and I felt like I lost a lot of soylent to the large surface area of the blender's pitcher. My usual…
vanclute - Jun 02, 2014 7:06pm
I just wrote to another forum member in a PM who asked a similar question of me... here was my answer: So my experience with a blender ball was actually that it didn't help much. In fact, some of the powder got inside the ball and kinda solidified there,…
timvermeulen - Jun 02, 2014 7:01pm
I believe blender balls are pretty popular.
Indian_Chief - Jun 02, 2014 6:11pm +4
Can anyone suggest an alternative to Soylent until it is possible to buy it in the EU? I have neither the time nor the inclination to make it myself and am worried that the forwarding services in the US would be too expensive on an ongoing basis.
muldrowe - Jun 02, 2014 5:36pm
Awesome, thanks for being so helpful!
axcho - Jun 02, 2014 5:34pm
Sure @muldrowe, as long as you take a Vitamin K supplement, you should be fine using whatever oil (olive or otherwise) you want. Here's the supplement I use: MK-7 Vitamin K-2 - it's a capsule of powder, which is handy because you can empty it out into…
muldrowe - Jun 02, 2014 5:31pm
@axcho I would really like to substitute the soybean for olive oil, is there something I could add to the three weeks I already received from you to make it meet the carb/protein/fat ratio. If it's a bit over 2000 calories that's fine.
axcho - Jun 02, 2014 5:27pm
Hmmm, interesting. I've been wondering about replacements for GNC Mega Men Sport powder, so I think I'll look into this... Thanks.
axcho - Jun 02, 2014 5:12pm
Yes, good point @warnett, I should probably mention that in the future. Olive oil is not equivalent to soybean oil, because olive oil does not have as much Vitamin K (and the taste is more bitter). If you want to use olive oil, you'll need to ask me…
warnett - Jun 02, 2014 5:07pm
I believe Soybean Oil is basically what most stores call vegetable oil. I searched through 3 different health food stores for Soybean Oil and they all looked at me like I was an idiot. Got home and look at the vegetable oil in my cupboard and it's made…
axcho - Jun 02, 2014 5:03pm
@muldrowe, for the Plus, 5 tablespoons is what it takes to get the right carb/protein/fat ratio for the recipe at 2000 calories a day. But if you don't need that many calories, you could drop it to as little as 3 tablespoons, but I wouldn't go any lower…
@johnbailon just responded to your email, thanks for your support!
Jun 02, 2014 4:10pm
muldrowe - Jun 02, 2014 3:57pm
I also received my order from Axcho! Wondering if I truly need 5 tablespoons of soybean oil daily, it's an awful lot! I'm currently using olive oil because I couldn't find soybean oil, does this serve the same purpose?
ytfsic - Jun 02, 2014 3:46pm
I've seen other posts about fermentation causing other side effects (exploding in container). This could impact whether this is a solution to go camping with, or can be used in places without adequate cooling solutions. It was unpalatable when it was…
arthur - Jun 02, 2014 3:42pm
Hey @FlipFlop ! Ca c'est un grand tableau !Petites questions:- Pourquoi est-ce que tu ne différencies pas entre les acides gras (saturé, mono, et poly insaturés) ?- Même question pour les fibres soluble/insoluble. J'ai lu quelque part qu'il fallait viser…
VRiftist - Jun 02, 2014 3:34pm +5
shadowhawkxx - Jun 02, 2014 3:17pm
Well I've got down on my gChat status "Advanced Fuel Source: pending...", but that's probably a bit wordy
FlipFlop - Jun 02, 2014 2:17pm
Bonjour à tous,ça y est, j'ai passé le cap ! Je viens de faire tous les achats J'ai hâte de tout recevoir pour commencer à m'alimenter en Soylent maison. J'ai nommé ma recette "Full Drink" et vous pouvez trouver mon tableau ici : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuuukIdq006TdElkMC1hbV9pbDVYVjFnZWZvbnlBSmc&usp=sharing…
lucidquasar - Jun 02, 2014 1:16pm +7
just wondering if turning the powder into some type of pancake would be possible. I've never tried soylent but people describe it and kinda like drinking cake batter so it got me thinking. I don't know the first thing about cooking but I'm curious if…
gueste - Jun 02, 2014 11:42am
"Superior food" is too offensive. It's like calling Linux/Unix superior to Windows, it will automatically trigger reactions from haters and those who disprove/disbelieve.
ChristianWheel - Jun 02, 2014 10:36am +30
arthur - Jun 02, 2014 9:30am
Merci @Tronce pour ta réponse rapide et détaillée. Ton premier lien Tronce said: AJCN - ALA and LA renvoie vers la page Nutrimuscle, est-ce que c'est normal ? Tronce said: Qu'entend-on par total? Dans ce document, page 860 du pdf, l'apport en…
Curtis2011 - Jun 02, 2014 8:47am
Some ideas: superior food, refined food, new food.
ajlipp - Jun 02, 2014 7:19am
Yeah I really like "elemental food". It doesn't really communicate much as far as what it means, but it's still a great name. I still think the name most people would understand without any explanation is "adult baby formula", although it's also a little…
@singletary it's going to be so great to ship orders immediately! thanks for putting up with the inconvenience of being an early adopter :)
Jun 02, 2014 6:50am
Tronce - Jun 02, 2014 5:46am
Salut @arthur arthur said: Il semble que l'apport en omega 3 de l'huile de lin ne soit pas suffisant (seulement des ALA, mais pas d'EPA et de DHA). Bon, il semble que le corps peut faire la conversion mais l'efficacité de cette conversion est limitée.…
geraldhibbs - Jun 02, 2014 5:27am
Also, athletes need more potassium. Low potassium can definitely cause muscle cramping. Between the low sodium and low potassium, you were destined for issues. Note that the diy soylent adds in, for many recipes, potassium citrate. You may want to…
granthollomew - Jun 02, 2014 1:44am
Elemental food has a great ring to it in my mind, especially juxtaposed with conventional food.
TegidTathal - Jun 02, 2014 1:21am
I'd like to be able to click or hover over a micro nutrient and see all of the ingredients contributing to it and how much they contribute.
vanclute - Jun 02, 2014 1:14am
Aha.... gotcha. And like most things with nutrition I imagine everyone's needs are individual as well, so it's probably hard to pin down into a one-size-fits-all solution.
CarltonLemley - Jun 02, 2014 12:03am
Agreed. It's not at all a deal breaker, but it's probably good to know going in that satiation does not necessarily mean you're good to go. I suspect we'll find more and more idiosyncrasies of a more scientific approach to nutrition as we go.
csells - Jun 01, 2014 11:40pm
Would you care the share your PB cookie and brownie recipes?
shadowhawkxx - Jun 01, 2014 11:06pm
vanclute said: Well, if EPA and DHA are only possible to get from animals, then I have never had any in my entire life (41 years). I'm kinda leaning towards them not being so essential, if that is in fact the case. I think that's where Though technically…
Blushfield - Jun 01, 2014 10:56pm +5
Hey all, first time poster here - long time lurker (the usual drill...) I've modified a pre-existing recipe to suit the ingredients I can get hold of (and currently have to hand) and am struggling to meet my calorie requirements. I'm trying to gain weight,…
Slorrin - Jun 01, 2014 10:46pm
Damn, too much DHA then. When you have EPA:DHA 1:1 then it reduces the efficacy of EPA. We dont' synthesize EPA and DHA well from ALA, I guess they say this above. But yeah, 1g of EPA is good, but more than 300g of DHA isn't helping, it's slightly…
vanclute - Jun 01, 2014 10:43pm
Interesting about your bike ride. I went mountain biking with some friends the other day, and of course brought my Soylent. Didn't think much of it, but this is considerably more exertion than I normally endure. About halfway along the ride, we stopped…
vanclute - Jun 01, 2014 10:35pm
Well, if EPA and DHA are only possible to get from animals, then I have never had any in my entire life (41 years). I'm kinda leaning towards them not being so essential, if that is in fact the case.
arthur - Jun 01, 2014 10:06pm
Salut @Tronce! Qu'est-ce que tu penses de la discussion actuelle concernant les différents type d'omega 3 (ici et ici) ? Il semble que l'apport en omega 3 de l'huile de lin ne soit pas suffisant (seulement des ALA, mais pas d'EPA et de DHA). Bon, il…
pateras - Jun 01, 2014 9:51pm +7
I ran out of Mega Men Sport, and ordered some more. What came has a dramatically stronger vanilla flavor, and it's really thrown off the taste of my recipe. Has anyone experienced anything like this or might offer a solution? I really liked the taste…
shadowhawkxx - Jun 01, 2014 9:19pm
I feel like I remember seeing exact ratios on omega 3 ratios, but I can't directly confirm it, as I don't recall exactly where off the top of my head. As far as EPA/DHA being included, the macro overview confirms: Fish Oil (6.4g) - Fish oil is a popular…
@codywalton info@soylent.me thanks!
Jun 01, 2014 8:50pm
Slorrin - Jun 01, 2014 8:01pm
It's important to know which Omega 3s we're getting. 2.5 grams is great, but of what? ALA is pretty much not what we need. EPA and DHA are harder to come by, ALA doesn't convert easily to EPA, and EPA doesn't convert easily to DHA. We need EPA to…
CarltonLemley - Jun 01, 2014 8:00pm
UPDATE: Added link to days 3 & 4
unsynchronized - Jun 01, 2014 7:55pm
nickp said: @unsynchronized interesting feature, thanks for the suggestion. I'll add it to request list Cheers! I have noticed I spend a lot of time bumping up one thing and bumping down another, so a few assignable see saws might be just the ticket.…
CarltonLemley - Jun 01, 2014 7:05pm
I understand. A thorough exam is certainly in the cards for me if I continue to see this kind of spike. As it stands, I'm inclined to make 100% sure I haven't sullied the results somehow first, since I know the first thing my doctor will say after I tell…
nickp - Jun 01, 2014 6:50pm
The DIY site should now work properly with https: https://diy.soylent.me/ @unsynchronized interesting feature, thanks for the suggestion. I'll add it to request list
leecauble1 - Jun 01, 2014 6:42pm
No disrespect intended. Every day I see people who have used knowledge they gleaned from the internet to make poor medical decisions. Being fully aware of your health history as well as current status is important for healthy living. That said my point…
ThomasCrown001 - Jun 01, 2014 6:04pm +4
Me and my girlfriend have ordered a month each, its being sent to a ship-to address, then we are paying to have it shipped over here, our starter kits have arrived, just waiting on the actual soylent.…
CarltonLemley - Jun 01, 2014 6:02pm
Making random assumptions? That stings a bit as I've done my very best NOT to make assumptions. I also haven't made any broad statements aside from the fact that my blood sugar reading was abnormally high one hour after one meal. As for your other questions:…
Leecauble - Jun 01, 2014 4:47pm
I have consistently used room temp RO water. Mainly because our tap water is very high in minerals especially calcium and magnesium.. When I visited Rosa Labs in April we used good ole LA tap water and it was fine.
Leecauble - Jun 01, 2014 4:42pm
en.wikipedia.org Glucose tolerance test Glucose tolerance test (aka glucose challenge test) is a medical test in which glucose is given and blood samples taken afterward to determine how quickly it is cleared from the blood. The test is…
vanclute - Jun 01, 2014 4:31pm
That's really cool information to know. I'd only ever used "cold" water from the tap (though filtered) and I add the oil midway through the mixing process. Sounds like temperature and timing could really play a big part! I wonder how many of the articles…
Drpepperbob - Jun 01, 2014 4:25pm +7
ytfsic - Jun 01, 2014 4:17pm
About two weeks ago I was able to try one day of Soylent v1.0, and I have to admit, I wasn't a fan. I took the vegan bag and poured it in to warm water, then let that chill for the night. In the morning it tasted terrible and was ridiculously gritty,…
8O8 - Jun 01, 2014 3:55pm
@Claus - you don't need a PayPal account to order from @Spaceman - just a credit card. (the payment is processed via PayPal)
Spaceman - Jun 01, 2014 3:51pm
Oh, Ivar - yes, it's for Netherlands... @Claus - it will be shippend on Monday. So the order from Sweden is a morning surprise:) Thanks, Mattias!
Claus - Jun 01, 2014 3:48pm
No, to the Netherlands actually. But my name can't be familiar to you because I don't have a PayPal account so I let a friend order it for me (Ivar Hamoen), we're still waiting for a reply about the shipping costs actually
casssax - Jun 01, 2014 3:32pm
I'd be happy to get it without the scoop. I'm waiting on a one month supply so I will get a scoop with that. I plan on mixing up the one day's worth all at once so I won't even need the scoop. I'd just like to get the chance to try it while I'm waiting.…
Spaceman - Jun 01, 2014 3:28pm
Thanks @gueste for recommendation.Thanks @Claus for order. To Sweden, right?
bryce_leo - Jun 01, 2014 3:26pm
Status Update.So far I've been trying an every other day DIY soylent adventure, 2 days total. The good: Man does that stuff fill you up. I'm eating the same calories and macros that I do with traditional nutrition but I really don't even feel like I…
shadowhawkxx - Jun 01, 2014 2:33pm
genaio said: They never said it was low, they said it was low compared to other maltodextrins. But I can't find the source at the moment... They said both - it was from the Macro overview: Our chosen maltodextrin is derived from corn and has a DE…
CarltonLemley - Jun 01, 2014 1:37pm
I've noticed this same paradox when it comes to energy. I've felt like I was overall a bit lower than normal, but completely lacked the ups and downs I'm used to. For example, it's been difficult to get myself excited to go out on my bike, but I've completely…
Merry - Jun 01, 2014 1:24pm
Depending on the recipe, yes!
CarltonLemley - Jun 01, 2014 1:13pm
For those interested: I'm using the non-vegan blend. I make my Soylent with 48oz of water, one bag of Soylent, one bottle of oil. I've also started adding one gram of salt (still experimenting with this number so it may change) to help with cramping and…
The Malay Mail Online - Jun 01, 2014 1:06pm
NEW YORK, June 1 — Soylent is a product developed by a group of entrepreneurs to be a cheaper, more efficient alternative to food. The New York Times poses the all-important question to some selected taste testers: could it someday replace “real” food?
hug0 - Jun 01, 2014 12:47pm
Merci à tous pour vos réponses, j'attend la fin de mes examens pour me lancer ou nonBonne journée.
Claus - Jun 01, 2014 12:31pm
Dutchie here. Very interested. Just ordered from Spaceman as well, so I will have to compare.
waheed60 - Jun 01, 2014 9:09am
I am interested please.
gueste - Jun 01, 2014 9:02am
@Spaceman is already selling in Europe, that's where I bought, but if you live in Europe and can offer other Europeans lower shipping costs than those who are producing their product in the USA, there sure will be enough demand I think!
arrc - Jun 01, 2014 8:29am
Yes, absolutely interested!
qentaur77 - Jun 01, 2014 8:19am
I second that.Bring me your soylent !
Bman007 - Jun 01, 2014 7:59am
Yeah I saw where they talked about the maltodextrin's lower number... But there's also been talk repeatedly of some ongoing study, measuring the overall GI of Soylent itself. But maybe they'll release that only after selling as much as possible
90intuition - Jun 01, 2014 7:46am
If it is similar to the real Soylent, yes I am interested
genaio - Jun 01, 2014 7:35am
They never said it was low, they said it was low compared to other maltodextrins. But I can't find the source at the moment...
genaio - Jun 01, 2014 7:34am
@CarltonLemley are you using the vegan version? If so, are you using any kind of substitute oil? Even low GI carbs (in sufficient amounts) can spike your glucose if you don't eat enough fat with them.
lisa_lionheart - Jun 01, 2014 5:43am +9
I was talking to my partner about Soylent and he suggested adding powdered gelatin to a batch. A little bit would make a really thick shake and more would make more solid food like Jelly/Jelo. Maybe we could make food cubes? Has anyone tried something…
plainbagel - Jun 01, 2014 5:41am +5
Curious what are some ways to sweeten up a DIY mix w/o messing up the existing nutrient mix. E.g. cocoa is going to change it too much at the moment, but is brown sugar and cinnamon okay, though? (nevermind the change in carbs)
vanclute - Jun 01, 2014 4:43am
pmjm said: For reference, I also pre-ordered Duke Nukem Forever when it was first announced in 1997. So we have established that you are a glutton for punishment, is that it? LOL Glad you got your Soylent... now tell us what you think about it!…
Bman007 - Jun 01, 2014 4:23am
The Soylent, it's killed you! But seriously, how many people are measuring this? Where is Rosa Labs' much touted study showing a "rather low" GI?
ex99125b - Jun 01, 2014 4:16am +9
The [usda lists](http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/magnesium.asp) the recommended intake of magnesium as 420mg, it lists the UL as 350mg…is it just me, or...

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