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Sucralose and stevia, being fine powders and very lightweight, get into the air really easily and smell sickly sweet. That doesn't happen with sugar granules, which are enormous, in comparison. In the right amounts, they all have the same sweetness when…

@leecauble1 the blood was the normal dark purple and the clotting was normal. Darn. @dakota0626 another pease of relevant info I should of mentioned earlier but didn't. I'm using a DIY soylent not Soylent. I'm using (s)oylent Green. http://diy.soylent.me/recipes/soylent-green-11

Water soluble vitamins like vitamin c are water soluble no matter what they are in, Soylent or other. That's not changeable. If veggies in water lose some vitamins into the water, then the vitamins are in the water, and you get them if you drink the…

Absolutely. There needs to be more soluble fiber in Soylent. I've had 9 of my 14 days, and each day results in unpleasant bathroom trips. It's pretty bad. I'll try adding some of the psyllium husk to my next batch... I wonder if it will have an impact…

Keen to order a sample batch, thanks for doing this.

That should have been apparent based on the color of the blood. Arterial blood is brighter red than venous blood due to the presence of oxygen. You also would have probably taken longer to clot when the needle was removed as the blood would be forcefully…

Thank you for the explanation. I really do appreciate it. Given what you said it's not as impossible she hit an artery as I thought. My veins roll and she initially missed the vein an had to hunt for it possibly hitting the artery.

Water soluable usually refers to how the body metabolizes and stores or elimates them. Water soluable vitamins taken in excess are eliminated in urine. Fat soluable are stored in fat cell and excess consumption can lead to toxicity. I'm not aware of…

Wouldn't that be only if the water were taken out after? o_O I mean it's not like the nutrients evaporate...

You've never done IVs then. The veins are in the antecubital region also run along a couple arteries. It's very easy to be an experienced care provider and hit one by mistake, happens all the time. The catheters are sized in guages, a 24 guage has…

@dakota0626 I forgot to mention this was done at the Red Cross. Taking blood is what they do all day everyday. Its extremely unlikely I got the special ultra wide catheter or that the nurse hit an artery or picked a weird vein. She took it from the…

@materialsguy soy isn't the devil in disguise the Internet is making it out to be. Soybean oil gives me vitamin K and enough omega 6 to make the USDA happy. But on the other hand the amount of omega 6 could be part of my problem. To balance it out I…

Factors could also involve hydration, blood pressure, catheter gauge, vein selection or misidentification of an artery, etc.

@Tetsuo I'm more inclined to believe MentalNomad. A vitamin K deficiency would prevent my blood from clotting which wasn't a problem. I take the dreaded soybean oil which gives me plenty of K. Conversely I take 11g of omega 3s which can reduce the viscosity…

What I mean is do the vitamins and minerals loose their potency when they sit in water for over an hour? If you put fresh vegetables in water, they will quickly loose their nutrients.

No, I mean I was wrong to be concerned that you might be unable to absorb the extra iron if you took it weekly instead of daily. And iron is well-stored when you absorb it.

Sugar alcohols are the worst. See Haribo's Sugar-Free Gummy Bears: www.amazon.com Customer Reviews That said, I would prefer Soylent with no sugar additives at all, real or fake. I may have to try Schmoylent…

i record then to just replace the sugar with a sugar alcohol. and they are good for your teethes

See my problem is the sweetener used leaves a strange aftertaste when I try to cover up the sweetness with other flavours as on its own its disgustingly sweet tasting. I also can't swallow more than the tiniest of pills and I am used to getting chewable…

@unsynchronized - sorry you feel that way. We think the price is very reasonable - there's a big difference in the costs and responsibilities involved in making it yourself compared to selling commercially. We have sold out because I was interviewed on…

My biggest concern is with your fats. You have a very good omega 3/6 ratio, but I would worry about the total amount of omega 6 you are getting. Obviously just a personal opinion, but I think soybean oil is one of the worst oils you can use. High levels…

Got a little more Soylent than I'll need, Looking to sell 1 month for $255. Let me know if you are interested.

My first guess would be vitamin K because its a blood thinner and its easy to not get enough through a typical diet.

1 week backer and now I am a consumer. Just mixed my first pitcher and put it in the fridge for cooling before adding the oil. Of course, I couldn't resist tasting some straight out of the pitcher. Mmm tasty. Like a Vanilla malt. I can already tell there…

@nickp Thanks, searching works now. The other two operations are still not working: - trying to add an ingredient to a recipe from the ingredients list results in a POST message being shown; - trying to add it from the ingredient details results in a…

Ok, so your saying adding the iron supplement to the powder everyday shouldn't be problem?

Never mind on the iron... Iron absorption rates decline as iron dosage goes up, which makes getting large amounts problematic, but the effect doesn't come into play here. It only matters at the dosage levels used to treat anemia, which are way above…

I'm not concerned with the iron getting into solution and being bioavailable... I'm concerned with whether your body can absorb that quantity in just one meal. I seem to recall max absorption rates, but I may be off on this. Then again, if you dump the…

The iron supplement is in a vegicap that twists appart easily and gets added to the powder. You may be right about the omega 3. I donated blood today and filled the bag in 3.5 minutes. While low blood viscosity is good that seems ridiculous. On the…

You might find this book interesting to do with the low FODMAP diet - all the recipes are gluten free (or tell you when to substitute gluten free) as the two often cross over. Although it is aimed at Australian ingredients - the first half of the book…

I know very little about the sourcing of the vitamins they use in Soylent, but I have no inherent doubts about their quality. Part of the reason I do DIY soylent is because I'm not satisfied with the levels of vitamins in Soylent; they took a minimalist…

The body can store iron very well - too well, for many men - so getting it periodically instead of daily is doable. The catch is that you may not be able to absorb it very well if it's delivered all in one dose. I'd have a big concern in the very high…

MentalNomad: One big problem with that: it's awfully hard to convince people that you're selling them a complete and nutritious food if you have to serve it with vitamins on the side. It's really hard for marketing. ... but if I have to go the DIY…

High-fat diets, especially if high in animal fats and saturated fats, can literally make your blood thicker. Even olive oil, a healthy fat, tends to make your blood thicker. Conversely, diets high in omega-3 fatty acids and fish oil lead to blood that…

davidhunternyc: So to combat the bitterness of Soylent, leave the vitamins out and let us take our own vitamin supplements. One big problem with that: it's awfully hard to convince people that you're selling them a complete and nutritious food if…

leecauble1: When it comes to sugar, cane or beet? Does it matter? Both are almost pure sucrose, so mixed into a drink, it probably makes no difference. You can't tell the difference by taste. Cane requires more refining to produce clean white sugar,…

kennufs: Would that be if the daily allotment is all taken at once? Throughout the day as you would with soylent it may not have the same issue. I hadn't thought of that. I'll try potassium citrate as my sole source of potassium in my next batch and…

You should add a field to the ingredient detail pop-up for position #. There is an empty space for it next to the +/- buttons. That would make it super easy to sort your recipe without changing screens. edit: Alternately, you could re-purpose the +/-…

Yes, I have forgotten to take my vitamins many times but at least the onus is on me rather than having to drink the sucralose in Soylent.

During beta the vitamins were seperate. Problem for me was remembering to take them. Even though they were right on the counter.When it comes to sugar, cane or beet? Does it matter?

MentalNomad: The catch here is that I believe the bitterness they're covering is largely caused by the very necessary vitamins and minerals in the mix. My simple solution in DIY is to take my multivitamin as separate pills. So far, your idea is the…

Thanks for catching that. Small screen big fingers

I donated blood this morning. It's the first time I've done it in a few years. Normally it takes me at least 10 or longer minutes to fill the bag. Today I was done in 3:40. The nurse and I both where shocked. Any ideas why my blood was so eager to get…

It's an average over a period of time. The recipe has iron in it but another 18mg a day seemed like too much. Taking the iron once a week averages to just over 8mg a day.

Just want to throw this out there because you specifically mentioned having only drank wine and clear liquor. I am not a chemist or a doctor, but it's my understanding that spirits distilled from grains do not contain glutten, meaning whiskey is safe…

@ro7856 that ingredient search bug should be fixed now. Let me know if not...

leecauble1: infor@soylent.me @leecauble1 That's a typo The real email is info@soylent.me. leecauble1:

I've been on it for almost 3 months at 3 meals a day and it's still bad. I just picked up some Essential Enzymes and I'll see if that helps. It has enzymes for protein, fat, carbs, and fiber so it may do better than just Beano.

Hi, I'm from Łódź and I'm interested in alternatives cheaper than Soylent/Joylent. I don't have time to actually be a part of any projecyt; I'm just interested as a customer. After all I want to use Soylent/Joylent/alternative to save my time!

You're right. The shipment tracker shows people who ordered in Feb '14 are getting shipped now. So maybe another 3-4 weeks for July orders.

bruce: I figured I'd just ask for a refund, To ask for a refund, you need to email info@soylent.me. bruce:

The only thing that really helped me was getting used to Soylent. After a couple weeks at 2 meals/day, my flatulence reduced to normal levels.

I'm not convinced that sucralose is completely safe. I'm also not convinced that stevia is completely safe. I'm sure that, at some level of intake, they are problematic. However, at the same time, we know that at some level of intake, sugar is problematic,…

That carpet looks identical to the one in my family room...

I'm not sure how well the body can handle iron if it's only taken once a week. Other than that, the recipe looks good to me.

davidhunternyc: So wouldn't it be better to be safe than sorry and leave sucralose out of Soylent? If you can tolerate the taste without, sure. But then you'll dread drinking it, and end up not consuming Soylent and going back to your (presumably worse)…

I agree with many of the points already made here. In an air-conditioned gym, it's not just cooler, it's dryer. If you work out actively, it's easy to actually sweat and not realize how much, leading to dehydration. Also, just breathing that dry air…

Sure you can, but a measuring bottle would be even easier and not require dirtying another utensil (and wasting some of the oil that you have to rinse off).

MentalNomad, thank you for your sober, non-confrontational, and very intelligent reply. Your knowledge is exemplary and there is quite a bit that you said that makes sense. I am not a chemist nor a doctor and my dietary decisions are based on studies…

Unfortunately, I don't have the individual ingredients from official Soylent to try - I wish I did. I've been using this one: http://diy.soylent.me/recipes/kennufs-hybrid-v13

I'm buying 20oz smoothies and putting them in the blender with two scoops (1 meal) Soylent. I'm aware I'm raising the calorie content, but the taste is excellent, at least for me. I'm not much of a cook/experimenter, so this has been an easy alternative…

davidhunternyc: Like I said before, these questions and concerns are a matter of life and death. No. No, they are not. They are a matter of a weak glucose intolerance effect that appears only to come into play in isolated calorie-free circumstances.…

davidhunternyc: > ... it is likely to only happen with calorie-free drinks. Soylent is calorie-full food. Are you sure? What evidence do you have? I'm not sure. That's why I said, "likely." But I have a ton of evidence. For example, I read the paper…

@Endtropy - following your suggestion to work with 100%FOOD theme we updated our logo (see below). I do not think that we should add there any graphics, simple wording is good enough,but may be I'm wrong? 100percentFOOD new logo.png1432x754 684 KB…

Good to know, thanks. I think our fridge is sufficiently cold though, and it does have a temperature adjustment knob on top of that.

casssax: People who ordered a couple of days before you are getting their shipping notifications. I believe that was an address confirmation, not a shipping notification on the 5/30/14 order. They're still in backer orders as far as shipping, though…

If I'm doing the math right, a pouch of Soylent 1.0 contains about 8.8mg of gluten. Some stuff I've found online suggests that people in the first stages of recovery should, depending on sensitivity, keep their daily gluten intake to less than 5mg,…

axcho: That referral code is the only way that the DIY site is monetized - I'm pretty sure it goes to @nickp. He doesn't get paid by Rosa Labs or anything like that. Sounds fair enough to me, although it's helpful if these things are acknowledged.…

Be a little careful with having a pitcher last 2 days. For most people, it works fine, but in my case, the fridge at my Fiancé's house is not cool enough to keep it from going sour if I leave it in there longer than 30 hours.

As soon as I opened the bag, it smelled like yellow cake mix. Not a bad smell by any means, I was just surprised at the similarity. As several people have suggested, I mixed it with just filtered water and left it in the fridge for a few hours. I tried…

Please give us the ability to just type in our own currency (three characters max) that would make it so much easier for us that does not use €,$ or £ hh'h' M̷̢̢̩̠̟̺̟̹̬͊̈̊̈̅̋̆̾̂̾͜Ö̵̡̫̠̯̠̩͇̳̥́͗̈́̉̇̓̈́̈́̀͝ͅD̴̢̝͓͈̲̳͙̺̪̻̅̈́̃̏̊͂͆̽̉̈ify it .

About time! I have been using repurposed 5-hour energy bottles for my DIY Soylent and for partial batches when traveling. There Is No Substitute.

Hi. I don't know if it's just for me, but searching the ingredients list gives "Internal server error", and adding an ingredient to a recipe from the ingredients list and ingredients details does not work either.

bruce: I placed an order the first week of June discourse.soylent.me Got my email address confirmation email from a 5/30/14 1 week order Got my email address confirmation email from a May 30th 1 week order...It mentions…

Good to know. So maybe one day...

He's in his late teens--that's the age for it.

@OmegaJeff your symptoms could also be caused by the fructans in the wheat.You should have yourself formally tested for celiac and try the fodmap elimination diet.

That referral code is the only way that the DIY site is monetized - I'm pretty sure it goes to @nickp. He doesn't get paid by Rosa Labs or anything like that.

@Sara, I'm one of the "commercial DIY producers" that @livingparadox was alluding to. Feel free to contact me on my site: http://custombodyfuel.com/contact/

I get the sour taste when I eat sugary food. I suspect yeast growing on my tongue. One of the reasons I didn't make Soylent a regular part of my diet.

It's sometimes possible to grow out of your allergies if you abstain from them for many years. I've gained and lost many different food allergies over the course of my life.

... it is likely to only happen with calorie-free drinks. Soylent is calorie-full food. Are you sure? What evidence do you have? I am not trying to be contrary but maybe surcralose will cause problems whether the stomach is full or empty. Like I said…

You could have a sinus infection which is affecting your sense of taste.

Soylent - It's made by people!

Stevia is likely to exhibit the same effect as sucralose. And using sugar to replace some of the maltodextrin would reduce the glycemic index, not raise it. But this is all an overreaction. The effect is small - the study was done on saccharine because…

Crap. :/ So I guess no more poultry for the rest of my life? I know that I've been allergic to shrimp/crab/lobster my whole life at least, those I don't care about anyways, but I miss poultry...

Even though I hate the name "Soylent", is what inspired me is the idea - but I have to stop to explain that I don't mean the idea of grinding up people to make convenient nutritious(?) food. I really like the Rosa Labs meal replacement presented on a…

Problem with the waste supply? Try drinking bottled water...

Sounds like a vitamin/mineral OD. Posable??? A little more detail about your experiments in relation to micronutrients, intentional or not, would be helpful..... From what I remember from your other posts you where concentrating on the macronutrients.…

@oldbushie unfortunately allergies don't work that way. They get worse with repeated exposure.

You must be kidding. Fast food restaurants won't promote Soylent. Soylent customers don't need McDonalds. If you want Soylent, you're not going to bother with driving to a crowded restaurant, finding a parking space or getting in line, wait for the…

CVS has a shot glass just for this purpose.

Did you ever consider heat sealing the powder and oil together in separate compartments of an opaque bag and selling them in a refrigerated vending machine? It won't allow for nearly the same level of customization but it would work.

@SyntacticSugars 30 pounds of muscle in a year??? :-o

Yes it is. I just wonder if Mudder's Milk tastes good.

I feel the same way; I hate the name on the package. And if the oil bottles leak a little, the stains on the box would make the whole thing look even more creepy in view of the delivery people, neighbors and package recycling workers. I hope Rosa Labs…

It's actually NOT that simple, of course. Sugar changes the glycemic index, and also (obviously) adds calories, which is why they went with sucralose in the first place. Stevia would probably be a better option.

I was also worried about knowing how much to prepare ahead of time so I tried just mixing it on demand. I mix a scoop at a time and drink it immediately. Just add one scoop of Soylent and two scoops of water to a glass and stir for 60 seconds, then…

I recently found out I had a gluten allergy as well (though I didn't test positive for Celiac). A number of the other allergies they found were consistent with foods I frequently ate in sandwiches: turkey, chicken, egg whites (from mayo), yeast, and beef…

I ordered in August. 2013. No confirmation. But it was international... lol I changed to a re-shipper a week or three ago, though, so I hope to get one soon. Hang in there dood