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Greetings, I live in Hong Kong and want to get my hands on some Soylent. Is it possible to use a package forwarding service like comGateway to deliver some here? I've used forwarding services before for electronics, but what issues would I run into…

Ah, so what you're saying is they don't know any of the phrases we use to shorten our speech so they have to express everything literally. That makes a lot of sense. It just reminds me of the spam I get when I freelance like "I am a Joomla and Wordpress…

They learn English as a second language, as so learn to use words with their literal meaning. Their English is much less idiomatically saturated, so there are more commonly used words to indicate specific meanings, instead of the various number of statements…

Why does everyone from India constantly use the words "keen" and "awaiting" when they're speaking/typing English? Also good luck with your recipe.

For All Those Who Want To Follow My Soylent Experiment; I've just created a FB page to keep a track of my findings -> https://www.facebook.com/theperfectmealsoylent

That is cheap... (16EUR for 2.5kg) I'd encourage you to try it (with caution!)

Does anybody have any experience with Potassium Nitrate (KNO3)? It's normally used to conserve food and I've found quite a cheap source in a european store. It's got 38% Potassium in it, which is better than what gluconate has. I've just started the…

I'm a bit late, but wanted to say that I'm in Stuttgart and would be willing to team up with someone else locally to make a batch or two.

Calories = fat, or carbs, or protein. Mine has a total of 200ml oil per day without it being too oily, IMO. Maybe try it and see?

Yup, it was naturally implied for me that I would get a different protein powder and then add the multivit as it is adviced in the Hackerschool Soylent precisely when you can't find the TJoe's unflavored soy prot powder. I didn't take into account that…

Looking. Here's one source: http://nutritiondata.self.com/topics/glycemic-index This is useful for learning the difference between glycemic index, load, and response: http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/28/7/1839.long And here's an explanation…

A source is definitely very welcome.

Thanks foomf, I'd love to read about it. Can you link a source for that?

Even when dissolved, sugar has been demonstrated to be slower on the uptake when eaten with protein, fat, or (both soluble and insoluble) fiber. There are probably good reasons for it but I won't conjecture yet.

Warning: what follows is an intuitive explanation only, I haven't found any science to back this up I'm afraid. I think some of you might be missing the point regarding fibre and GI. Fiber in food - say, a carrot - slows down absorption of the sugars…

feuillebutcher said: Unfortunately, I cannot find Trader Joe's unflavored soy protein powder for international shipment so I resorted to the multi-vitamin and the calcium citrate. This doesn't seem right. You need to get a different protein powder,…

Been on it for 3 days now. Getting use to it and actually enjoying it. Curious to see what impact it has on my blood work and body composition. https://twitter.com/harshbatra/status/373047896616488961

Hi, there. I live in France and I find your recipe very interesting. I plan to buy on amazon.com cheapest or non available ingredients in France mainly potassium citrate, sunflower lecithin, calcium citrate and Optimum Nutrition opti-women. Unfortunately,…

Turns out some of the stuff in my list also needs to be ordered from Amazon. They stopped selling it in India an year ago. @harshbatra How is it going for you?

I have to disagree with Lisa. All the ADA says about low carb diets is that they are acceptable for weight loss. The general expert recommendation for Diabetics is that between 60-70% of energy intake should be Carbs and monounsaturated fats together.…

That makes sense. Thanks!

We're actually not shipping from San Francisco, our manufacturer is in the central valley.

I would come pick up my order rather than wait for it to be shipped. It might be a win-win, since I'd get my order earlier and you could keep the money you would have spent on shipping. Possible?

I'm 42. Feel the same way. With a 30 year history of Crohn's disease, I am thrilled to see if I can get optimum nutrition for minimum stress on my gut.

ADHD is often mis-diagnosed, agreed. But it is a real disorder... even in the absence of milk and gluten ( I'm lactose intolerant ). Just to clarify this.

No I bought the ADHD-free version. lol...

I get my one week's worth sometime next month. I'll let you know what happens then. I know the multivitamin I take helps me alot, so Soylent should be the same. I don't take stimulants or meds, so other than the vitamins, I should be able to get a…

But we're not trying to add content to an encyclopaedia, we're a community and people communicate in several ways. Sometimes long form, sometimes short form.

ianproth said: Agreed (stupid word limit) and yes it it good that we have so many recipies HarveyDesu said: Excellent point, and some other random words so I can actually reply. ruipacheco said: I stand corrected. Word limit. In all of these…

There is also no need for the usual "subscribing" posts, consisting of just the word "Subscribe" or "In" - since Discourse lets you favourite a topic.

kthprog said: I would be willing to bet that optimizing using a word list sorted by frequency would make it more efficient than the English language despite that. There is a technique/algorithm called Huffman coding that does exactly this. But back…

kthprog said: Well of course, if the human language itself doesn't shorten common words, then you would find that any word is on average 13 times longer in binary, because there are 26 letters in the English language, equivalent to a base 26 numbering…

Well of course, if the human language itself doesn't shorten common words, then you would find that any word is on average 13 times longer in binary, because there are 26 letters in the English language, equivalent to a base 26 numbering system, whereas…

It makes sense that writing is sparsely distributed because a system based on sparse invariant representations is what spawned it in the first place.

kthprog said: If we communicated in binary, and every word had it's own binary representation, we would only need 20 binary digits at most to use any word. That is all. Interestingly, using the dictionary in Mathematica, there are 231 words for which…

If we communicated in binary, and every word had it's own binary representation, we would only need 20 binary digits at most to use any word. That is all. Also, could you please edit the title to say "word" instead of "world"? It's a bit embarrassing.

People do work that way. I know of 3 or 4 times I've been blocked by the character limit before I started just using the "like this post" option. It's easier and less cluttering. If all you have to say is less than 20 characters, it's probably not worth…

In theory the word limit seems good. In practice it can be bypassed by adding some random words. A word limit don't promote more thoughtfully composed posts, humans dont work that way.

Is a reply under 20 characters worth it? Just saying "awesome!" or "good job!" doesn't contribute to the dialogue. There's the "like this post" function for things like that. I'd rather read thoughtfully composed responses that take more than 10 seconds…

It's very frustrating when we want to do a quick reply and instead need to add filler words to the post.

I look forward to hearing how it works for you.

I am not in a line unit. Was just boarded and found fit for duty and returned to the guard, as I am able to control my diabetes with diet and excercise.

Here are the relevant rules to follow if you are to produce food in EU in general and Sweden in particular. http://www.slv.se/sv/grupp1/livsmedelsforetag/Aromer-tillsatser-enzymer-och-berikning/Berikning/ I would think it will probably, legally, mainly,…

Hello all, I am back from vacation Unfortunately I cannot sell Soylent anymore, I've run out of ingredients and don't plan on purchasing any more (not trying to start my own business selling the stuff). I will keep my recipe online as a reference…

Hi are you back from vacation ? and can i order

Would be nice to know about importation taxes too...

rob said: I read almost everything on discourse Hey, hook a brother up with some Soylent rob said:

Haha, good to hear from you.Thanks for taking the time to respond. Well that's what I figured would be the main reasons, is that anything you say is going to be examined under a microscope and you have more important things to do. It's just good to…

Ah man, I have said some pretty dumb things too, and will invariably say more dumb things. It's good to know you're around. Are you choosing not to weigh in on things permanently? Or is this kind of a precaution until Soylent is released?I completely…

I read almost everything on discourse but don't respond often as I don't want to commit to a thread or have something taken out of context. Yes I've been busy but I love this community and will weigh in when I feel it's necessary.

Vice did say he could become a billionaire now. Maybe he's busy counting dollar bills. (Also, he posted on the Pronutria thread).

Lo de rfa suena bien, pero existe la cuestión de fondo que en parte me lleva a probar soylent, y es la separación de la comida tradicional y la utilización de productos derivados u obtenidos de animales, es decir me tome soylent como una alternativa a…

Rob's blog "Mostly Harmless" has had no new posts since late June. Guess he's too busy becoming an entrepreneurial wonk.

Haven't seen @rob around lately.Has he put up any more blog posts?Any new updates on Soylent?After trying to roll my own I'm really excited about the possibility of buying the official Soylent.

As far as I know there is no way you can become a tester -- that was a very early offer of Rob's that never went anywhere. How do you buy it? At the moment you put in your order and wait for months, depending on what country you live in, but nobody's…

how do you purchase Soylent or become a tester?

I'm two days in. Results are good, but I take stimulants, so it's hard to gauge if it would have any effect on me at baseline.

I'm curious about how soylent affects ADHD symptoms. I've often noticed that my attention span can vary wildly depending on how I've been eating, and I'm wondering if a nutritionally complete meal replacement might help get rid of my focus issues altogether.…

@chris Agreed, and even @Teseracto also agreed to the point that those energy stores themselves don't violate the ci/co idea, but at this point as @nc1701d notes, there's just a bit of confusion / disagreement on what we're trying to say in context to…

It is bound to lead to confusion, and I believe it already has. Yes, absolutely, in a perfect vacuum of physics, if you put more energy into a system than is being expended, there will be a stored surplus of energy. If you put less energy into a system…

@mrob Exactly. (You do know that you and I are agreeing right? Just checking.) For a person to get larger there must be more in, than out, fundamentally, but the "out" has all sorts of internal variation depending on how/why/where the body stores or…

chris said: "consuming more than expenditure" causing weight gain, but in reality no one is arguing that. Actually, excluding complete starvation, that's exactly what can happen. The separation I'm trying to make is that the ci/co mantra does not relate…

He said that a person can gain weight even on a hypocaloric diet. That means a net energy surplus (in form of fat stored) with a reduced energy intake. The logical consequence of that is that the energy consumed (in the sense of spent, used) needs to…

Teseracto said: This don't contradicts ci/co, because the calorie consumtion has been reduced even more than the intake. Can you clarify? I don't understand what you're saying here. Teseracto said:

@Teseracto does have a point here. Arguments can get confused when it seems like sides are arguing for or against "consuming more than expenditure" causing weight gain, but in reality no one is arguing that. Indeed "there is no getting around the laws…

That all caloric intake is equal regardless of its type, and that the caloric consumtion is constant is the simplistic interpretation of ci/co made by its detractors. This strawman falacy is obviously false. The ci/co theory don't pretend to rule over…

I suspect part of the argument we're having here is based in semantics. There's "metabolism" the noun, which is more or less "the rate at which the body breaks down nutrients" and there's "metabolism" the verb ("to metabolize"), which is more or less…

Tagging @JulioMiles.

Let's tag @rob on this one. There are one or two other Soylent Staffers on here too ... forgetting the names right now.

I find their "MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE 85% INSTANTISED" to be even better, it is cheaper, the phosphorous content is higher and it has a great amino profile. It is what I use http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/milk-protein-concentrate-85-instantised.html

@chris, if I consume food that has a potential energy of 500 calories, and perform 600 calories of work, where do the extra 100 calories come from? They come from the body consuming its own stores of energy. Calories in, calories out. chris said:…

That's the question yo.

Calories-in calories-out is a ridiculous oversimplification, and you don't even have to look beyond simple arithmetic to see that it is so. If it were true that our adiposity is determined by calories-in/calories-out, then this is one implication: you…

Sí, pues es una idea similar a esa, aunque anterior, todo sea dicho. No está mal, y ojalá tengas (o tengáis) éxito, pero la idea que proponía se diferencia en no dejar a la suerte los alimentos escogidos, sino que estos sean calculados con la ayuda de…

DanielM said: Puede haber una solución más fácil y más al alcance de todo el mundo, y es combinar correctamente los alimentos que comemos, pero con cantidades calculadas con precisión, de manera que tenga todas las ventajas de Soylent. Sería como Soylent,…

Me he dado cuenta de que composiciones como Soylent presentan varios problemas, como la obtención de materiales, los costes iniciales, la seguridad (se dice que los suplementos vitamínicos no son tan eficaces como las propias vitaminas presentes en los…

I would certainly be happy to turn my data over to Soylent Corp. in order to further research if they themselves came out with an app. If not, perhaps one of the super smart techies that frequent this forum will at some point decide to throw something…

Great idea Spryte! Ok @rob and company. This may not be in the companies goals, but surely an app that helps people track this information should come with Soylent? After all, what better marketing do you need if you can consolidate everyone's positive…

discourse.soylent.me Cognitive Function Test AFAIK Rob and a few of the initial testers of the formula are tracking their cognitive performance(?) using http://www.quantified-mind.com/ I don't know that anyone has attempted to set…

How and what do you use to track data related to your health while embarking on this experiment? I'm looking for a comprehensive and efficient way to track data, (better than jotting things in a notebook, which I may also resort to). Do you use an app?…

Finalmente, y en vista de que no hay manera de organizarnos unos pocos, he decidido que a la que reúna dinero este mes , lo haré por mi cuenta, ya os ire informando de como me va, un saludo

yeah its really web 3.0 look at all those minimal buttons and pretty animationsnot even sarcastic

bingHELP said: ohive never been to a forum with an offtopic flag excuse me Of course it was new to me too when it was pointed out to me! Discourse (which is the forum software) is amazing - I really don't know why all forums aren't like this. bingHELP…

ohive never been to a forum with an offtopic flag excuse me

federixds said: Excuse me. Did you know that Herbalife invented the SAME product about 30 years ago? bingHELP said: excuse me but did you know that ur holla was completely offtopic and you shouldnt do that @federixds, bingHELP is right in that one…

excuse me but did you know that ur holla was completely offtopic and you shouldnt do that

i would use it if it was vegan, organic and with no GMOs. if you could offer that i could see using it as my main nutrition, say 80 per cent. i don't like cooking, preping food, worrying about balance and all the bad stuff out there that one has to try…

I wasn't suggesting anyone should eat at a 90% deficit and I don't think the original reader took it as such. That article just covers the extreme version of ci/co. You're right that it isn't JUST ci/co, but if you're intelligent about it it's a good…

The point is the processes in the body that result in the loss of weight in a particular way. The only way it works is calories in, calories out. What's in dispute is not that simple fact, but the fact that our bodies process things differently. A calorie…

Mrob, I think you're talking about a different level of abstraction than crapguitarist and I. The energy balance model does not imply calorie restriction, nor does it specify how the calories come out. If your normal body temperature is ever so slightly…

crapguitarist said: Losing weight is as simple as calories in, calories out. This is actually a Very Dangerous myth to perpetuate, and frankly just really bad science. If this were the case, myself, and millions of other skinny and sedentary office…

Oh another thing. It's the most prominent thing I've experienced the first three days: there is a difference between sated and stuffed. I was a frequent overeater, and recognizing this made me realize what I was feeling wasn't hunger but rather just that…

crapguitarist is right on the money. They key to weight control (up, down, maintain) is calories. Carbs are an easy thing to axe if you need to cut calories, but in practice I feel plenty full from ~2200 calories of soylent per day, I suspect you would…

Low-carb isn't necessary but it is an option. Losing weight is as simple as calories in, calories out. You can find your basal metabolic rate by using a calculator, and then also input other calories burned. You want to eat less than you burn to lose…

From what I understand, we usually get way more carbs than is necessary from average meals. So Soylent probably will cause weight loss as is. Lower for faster loss I guess, with bit risk of energy loss maybe, depending on how much energy you need for…

Ive been using this app to double check my latest revision and have found a (very) small glitch, but worth noting anyway.When using iodized salt (generic) and entering 3.27 grams the iodine content is zero. However it works either side of this value (ie:…

I believe the Omega-3 is sourced from Fish Oil I seriously doubt that. Omega-3 from fish source is too expensive when compared to Flaxseed, which is the best source for Omega-3. BTW, I'm not referring to flaxseed oil, but actual flaxseed themselves.…

jpuglionesi said: How do you order the vegan soylent? Just direct message @rob? The current blend of Soylent looks to be vegan by default. The original Crowdhoster page still says that the first run will not be vegan, but the most recent ingredients…

How do you order the vegan soylent? Just direct message @rob?

Not yet, the initial investment to get quality, lab grade nutrients is a little steep for me at this time, the base setup cost is around $700, and some suppliers don't ship to Canada, so the logistics are complex.