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Yeah you just have to make it obvious that there's a degree of uncertainty. Most foods have not had the choline content measured either, which makes it difficult to know if you've met this RDA, and it ends up being one of those "safe to assume" situations.

could you make up for a too high GI by sipping soylent throughout the day instead of having three big "meals", to have more steady energy?

Adler said: Maybe they could be added as an expandable item off of protein? Similar to how nutritiondata.self.com shows these? I think that's a decent idea. One issue I see with it is that this in-depth info is unavaible for many products, and as soon…

True. The same can be applied to carbs in general, fast or slow.

MetaSynapse said: you do need SOME fast carbs .. not really. Technically you don't need any carbs at all. I'm unaware of any situation where fast carbs would be useful, except that of athletes who have depleted their glycogen stores and need to maintain…

Thanks for the post Rob. I figured I might be missing something. I'm interested to see what the official Soylent GI turns out to be.

Maltodextrin is a category, not a chemical. There are different DE (dextrose equivalent) values. Longer chains take longer to break down and taste less sweet. We use a low DE version. The source matters as well. Corn, rice, and tapioca maltodextrin have…

The way I see it, maltodextrin and/or dextrose are used because a) you do need SOME fast carbs, and b) the alternative involves a LOT of oat powder, which probably wouldn't be very nice. I'm about to start experimenting with amylopectin (waxy maize starch)…

I see. Has anyone found maltodextrin with a GI of less than 100? I'm not sure if this is even possible, just wondering. @blinry: Livestrong.com states "Maltodextrin, unlike fructose, has a high glycemic index which ranges from 105 - 136 on glycemic index…

Firstly it's used so frequently just because its dirt cheap and tastes decent. Maltodextrin is not one single compound, it is a group, the difference being the number of glucose molecules in the chain. Each different length of maltodextrin has a different…

One advantage of Maltodextrin: It's tasteless or only very slightly sweet, making the soylent more pleasant to drink if using a lot of carbs. Do you have a source for the GI?

Ok, so this is my first post here on the forums although I have been reading them for quite a while. I read a thread called Maltodextrin vs Dextrose which was very similar to my question. However, in reading through it the question I have wasn't really…

wow. congratulations and thanks for the wiki.

Cool update. Makes sense to have a wiki on DIY soylent. Is there any reason the amino acids arent on our list of nutrients? Maybe they could be added as an expandable item off of protein? The same could be done for the fats and the fibers to keep things…

I've just posted an update that replaces the FAQ with a Wiki. Check it out: http://www.makesoylent.com/wiki The contents have been taken from http://soylent.wikispaces.com/ (with the permission of @nwthomas and @richardtkemp who were the only contributors).…

If I click on a tag can I see all recipes that have been tagged that way?

I'm starting to think that given the social aspect of the project, it would fit quite nicely at the StackExchange platform.

A few updates You can now sort recipes by 'Most Favorites' and 'Longest Notes'. We have 6 tags which you can filter recipes by (assuming the author has tagges their recipe): Weight Loss, Weight Gain, Ketogenic, Tasty!, Kosher and Vegetarian Added a…

My interest in Phosphates of Potassium lies in the preservative properties they have, preventing microorganisms attacking the fully diluted Soylent, as well as their absolute safety.

These compounds are salts of phosphoric acid, only differing in the number of H+ ions replaced with K+ ions. When in dilution the different phosphate anions (H2PO4-, HPO4-2, PO4-3) transmutes between each other in function of pH, so they are roughly equivalent.…

My worry is more along the line of: are all products of micronutrient heating harmless?But I don't think that's so easy to answer, and I did only mean cooking the massive natural ingredients, with low nutrients, so that is not a major problem. Have you…

Nope, the cooking does not improve satiation, it improves stomachache. But I have a very sensible stomach and it did not bother me the first five days. As for vitamins being destroyed in the process of cooking, I think its not that bad for many multivits…

Aha, so that will not happen to me from a small iron surplus due to snacking. Good to know >__> Did you mean the cooking improves satiation? Doesn't that destroy vitamins?

I can't say for sure but I'd say more than 55mg most of the surplus comming from the chocolate cake I ate. Then on retrospective, I was very panicked and didn't notice that all the sympthoms did not come from Iron. The heaviness in the chest, the spots…

This seems like a great way of supplying the oil. Does anyone know if this prevents oxidation of the oil in any way? SUDDENLY @sanchez. Sounds a bit like Intelligence Core "One 18.25 ounce package chocolate cake mix.""One can prepared coconut pecan frosting.""One…

Perhaps there will be more insight here, where everyone is seeking Potassium:Can someone assure me, preferably with some source, if all of these chemicals (all certified for food use)Monopotassium phosphate (KH2PO4)Dipotassium phosphate (K2HPO4)Tripotassium…

EU or NA suppliers? Sounds great!

How many milligrams iron do you estimate you really ingested?And DAMN was that description of what happened terrifying.

This one is slightly cheaper than either option above:http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Potassium-Gluconate-100-Pure-Powder-1-lb-454-g/13939 Don't order too much at once, since you might have to pay import duty then. Mine went through without stopping when…

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http://discourse.soylent.me/t/lithium-amounts/3123/ Potentially a new nutrient to add?

Mqrius said: Where are Europeans buying cheap Potassium Gluconate? http://purebulk.com/potassium-gluconate-powder.html Didn't found anything better and/or cheaper in europe, seems us is the only solution. Mqrius said:

Please help find a good source in Europe. So far found only Sopa-K, which is a potassium gluconate SYRUP, and is cherry brandy flavored. Will attempt using it in the next two days, expect it to taste like death though...

Don't worry, I don't forget about that myself most of the time However for many years still there will be centralized manufactured food, as well as food cooked in one batch for families of the most diverse age groups, so why don't we make the best of…

Just a short note ... the bottom line of the math I did (see posts above and reference to my thread) is, that basically, you can mix a lot of stuff and get decent results (even manual optimisation is fine), as long as you mix animal and plant stuff.…

On a much more serious note, when can we hope for dynamic Target/Max profile functionality based on other nutrients? (as described here) I made a spreadsheet like that in hopes of improving on "Rob's newest recommendation" profile, (and I am sure many…

Hola chicos he estado intentando realizar mi dieta RFA Soylent, pero soy muy torpe con el ingles y muchas de las cosas ni las entiendo ni se donde conseguirlas. Estoy muy interesado en el proyecto ya que soy celiaco, intolerante a la lactosa y alergico…

I have a thread here with a link to my Google Docs spreadsheet, which is way more up to date (makesoylent.com is blocked at work).

I ever thought of making something like soylent like probably 2 years back but the ingredients are hard to find and back then i wasn't so "adventurous" . MetaSynapse, I saw your post of the recipe, do you have a updated one and link it here so i could…

Thank you. The prominent smart toilet since about 2005 is from Toto. http://singularityhub.com/2009/05/12/smart-toilets-doctors-in-your-bathroom/ http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/12/30/intelligent-toilet-i.html http://gizmodo.com/037471/toto-intelligence-toilet…

biab said: http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/doctor_20toilet I used to hang out on the Halfbakery. It is not in any way a list of actual items (Although being 15 years old, some of them have been baked, just by coincidence), it's a site for 'half baked'…

A lot of people here use MakeSoylent to find or create their own recipes, give it a look and see if you can find the ingredients for a recipe you like.

You can either wait until more international shipping options open up (or use a freight forwarding service), or you can make your own. Making your own is a fantastic learning experience

Interesting! Can't wait to see full listing someday.

I like the idea of soylent because although i live in Singapore (Developed country), I am quite lazy about food even though i enjoy eating good food, I sometimes only eat dinner (2-4 times a week?) so I would really like to test soylent as for consistency…

That's awesome! Seems like the hard part is done. It would be usable - albeit basic - if you could just tie it in to the USDA food database and the makesoylent database to choose recipe items. It would certainly make adapting existing recipes to test…

The more I see other peoples GitHubs, the more my lack of programming opportunities depresses me lol.The irony is I have so little time after finishing my schoolwork for programming classes that I can't actually find time to program anything worthwhile.…

I'm working on an app, but I like sharing my ideas. I have a generic genetic algorithm simmering now, and I'm just tooling around with ideas. Right now it's sharing brainspace with some other things I work on, as I want to be able to reuse it, but I…

Since before Soylent, I've envisioned a system that could ambiently, or with extremely minimal effort, assess an individual's current needs (e.g., http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1433904.stm , http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/doctor_20toilet). Soylent…

..Dude, at that point: make it yourself lol.Could just be me but that's a bit much to ask of someone.

Along the same lines as ianproth, I would suggest an acceptable range (e.g., calories > 1995 and < 2000 kcal; phosphorus would be > 0.7 and < 4.0 grams).

I discovered something interesting the other day. Something like this would ,be awesome. You could possibly take the flavor profiles of all the ingredients, but design your own flavor profile, and then set it as one of the target fitness criteria. You…

Yea I realize that I just need to put some ideas down Also the final version should include Micronutriant Ratios and instead of having a set amount for each nutrient, have a minimum and recommended and a maximum.

Yea, this is more a proof of concept than anything else. Something usable will take some more work...

I would think about implementing something telling the simulation how precisely you will be able to measure said ingredient. It would be very difficult to measure everything to 3 decimal places every day.

Wow brilliant.Not much code either, kind of surprising.I'm still going to try my method, but this looks like it's working really well.Can't wait to see it at-scale.

Inspired by comments on the MakeSoylent thread, I went ahead and implemented an example of how an automatic recipe generator might work by using a Genetic algorithm. Right now, it's only using 5 ingredients and 4 nutrients, but it can easily be expanded.…

My first day experience. Overall, the day went well until nightfall. From 10 am to 8 pm, i felt great, lot of energy and clear mind were the most noticeable traits of the soylent (single day) diet. And then I started feeling a heaviness in the chest.…

That sounds like a great way to go. Thanks!

I mix everything together (the oils, the powders, etc.) into a light crumble mix a number of days at a time and then portion out to 1/2 amounts which I put in sealed plastic freezer ziplock bags that I keep in the fridge until ready to use. They are…

I've had great results using our DIY soylent. I've been on and of ritaline for 10 years now. Soylent tends to make me much more focused especially when combined with caffeine.

Hi there! My group of friends have large amounts of ingredients lying around. Currently our price per portion is around 5.50 euro's. A few friends dropped out along the way and thus we have more than we need. We are still drinking it with great pleasure…

We recently drove to France for a skydiving course. Breakfast and lunch consisted of our DIY soylent. Simply make half portions (or day portions depending on your preference) and bring a protein shaker bottle. (The ones that have a roster seem to work…

I made my first batch today. For extra calories, I added 25g olive oil and 100g walnut oil. I forgot to add the salt though but guess it'll be alright if I skip it for one day. I'll start taking the Soylent tomorrow and I'm a little worried but mostly…

@csells - I use a blender bottle while hiking, it works just fine. You will get a strong forearm from the shaking

Nitrates in foods are generally not a good idea. It is true that some meals include nitrates but they are only allowed there for historical reasons. In a normal food environment nitrates are easily converted to nitrosamines which can cause all kinds of…

Where are Europeans buying cheap Potassium Gluconate? Edit: Man, I can't find it anywhere. Cheapest option so far is €17.84 plus €12.00 shipping. That seems steep :x Edit: This isn't too bad, actually! Shipped from the US, but estimated to only take…

Defender said: Hmm.. will need a measuring apparatus for the oil. Take any plastic cup, mark a certain amount when you're home, and just use that. Nothing electronic required! csells said: Would a blender bottle work? Not sure! Let me know if you…

I check my bags, so I'm not so worried about the oil or the powder. Would a blender bottle work? I hear from the reviewers that they use power blenders and still have troubles with lumps, so I don't understand how a shaker bottle would do the trick.

Interestingly enough, I'm in the same boat. I just ordered my first DIY batch, as well as a blender and scale. My hope is to pack the blender (non-immersion) in my luggage, but pre-weigh/pack each day's contents in baggies. I'll also source my oil locally.…

Watching this topic. I suppose you could take a large bag or box of powder with you, and maybe one of these shaker bottles: http://s2.hubimg.com/u/1257517_f260.jpg If you're going by plane, you'd have to source some oil locally; I suggest olive oil…

I'm preparing for my soylent delivery one day. I travel a lot. What's the best way to prepare soylent on the road? Should I get a personal blender or an immersion blender? Do I need to make sure my hotel room has a fridge? Does anyone have any tips to…

If you take Potassium Gluconate as a source, it's 16.69 mass% Potassium. Is the rest to be considered Glucose?

No not yet. Still have about 7 weeks of potassium gluconate supply left and found out that I'm quite OK with the taste. I have been warned about Potassium Nitrate that the taste is VERY salty, which is kind of a no go for me. I have contacted some bulk…

Did you try this? What does it taste like?

Hola a todos. Yo soy de barcelona y también estoy muy interesado y llevo siguiendo a Rob desde que publicó su primera entrada sobre Soylent. Yo y un grupo de amigos estamos a la espera de poder conseguir una partida de soylent para probarlo, y si los…

Moja receptura umarła. Czekam na oficjalny produkt. Mam trochę składników na sprzedaż jakby coś.Gadaj z Kali, jego ekipie chyba coś z tego wyszło.Zaś co do Twojej alergii: sprawdź, czy tolerujesz izolat białka serwatkowego (WPI). Jeśli Ci nie służy -…

Hi everybody! I'm allergic to wheat, rye, and milk. Because o that I have a problem with finding safe meal to eat during work. So im interested in Polish recipe. I am not a nutrition specjalist so i probably won't help much, but i can serve as a lab…

Coconut Milk Powder. 70g fat, 17g carbs, 11g protein per 100g. Coconut milk solids 94%, maltodextrin, sodium caseinate.

Continuing the discussion from Effects of Soylent on Diabetics: rob said: We are careful to use carbohydrate sources that have a low GI. For example, the specific type of maltodextrin we use has a high ratio of (1->6) to (1->4) glycosidic bonds, meaning…

rob said: We are working with Dr. Pi-Sunyer, Chief of the Division of Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Nutrition at St. Luke’s/Roosevelt Hospital Center and Professor of Medicine at Columbia University to not only create something as healthy as possible…

While not a medical product, Soylent is designed with the diabetic in mind. We are working with Dr. Pi-Sunyer, Chief of the Division of Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Nutrition at St. Luke’s/Roosevelt Hospital Center and Professor of Medicine at Columbia…

Any maltodextrin/oil mix will do. Same ratio applies.

It's a transitional state and yours seems to match the experience everyone goes through. Try upping your intake of electrolites. /r/keto has some pretty good tips on how to deal with the keto flu.

How temporary? I'm really doubting that I can bear it long enough. It's making it hard to work or ride my bike. Not to mention, if it were a more 'natural' or 'beneficial' state, wouldn't my body respond more positively to it?

You know that's only temporary, right?

It absolutely would. I decided against that based on the last few days experience, though. I can't focus at work, I'm cold, and I keep getting headaches. This effect alone makes me doubt any benefit from a ketogenic diet.

I assume this would kill any keto versions of Soylent, no?

Wow, thanks!Lmao at "bacon powder". I was told you need a ratio of 6:4 tapioca maltodextrin to olive oil, just to clarify. It looks like the type of maltodextrin is not important.Tapioca maltodextrin is used only because of its lack of flavor. http://www.agcommoditiesinc.com/articles/tapioca-maltodextrin.php…

Here's a short blog post + video about this technique. From what she writes, the powder is stable for at least a month. Sounds interesting. I wonder what tapioca maltodextrin is, chemically? madartlab.com Amuse-Bouche: Tapioca Maltodextrin…

I imagine it would taste more like the oils that bind to it after it's mixed.

No, it's like eating powdered potatoes.

Isn't tapioca kind of like eating dirt?

Apparently, there is a technique where you can add tapioca powder to oils and they'll be absorbed, forming a powder. This would really help us DIYers who would like to be able to measure all ingredients beforehand as well as probably reducing packaging…

Heheh, well what I can say is Indians generally have much better English than the Chinese. It actually is just that it sounds so proper that it would only sound appropriate in a business setting. That's actually kind of a good problem to have. And yeah,…

Every country has its quirks. I don't know why we use certain phrases more than others. 1 in every 3 people in the world are Indian and 1 in every 3 are Chinese. I am sure you hear and see us alot (that includes the spam you and I get from all over).…

I don't speak for Soylent, but I think I have some answers for you ==Does Soylent believe they can provide serious competition for products like Ensure, or far better, safer, known content packaged meal replacements? From amazon, it seems like you can…

These are all valid questions.We're all raising them quietly in the back of our minds, however, I think most of us have weighed the benefits and dangers against each other and decided we would like to make Soylent, official or DIY, part of our regular…

Wondering if any medics tried to figure why you developed Diabetes II, with no genetic propensity for it. What sort of dietary intake did you have before/leading into developing the diabetes? Was it high carbs, low in good fats or have too much bad fats?Did…

I live in Hong Kong also, and official deliveries to Asia may take another year at least, so I have been buying from iHerb and making my own DIY Soylent for 2 months now.