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hi! @nickp, is possible to export the data? i wanted to do some number crunching in exceli've read the thread, but not found a way thanks!

I wonder what kind of jerky would be the best option for this purpose. Certainly the ubiquitous processed jerkies like Links or whatever can't be the best option. If it's the only real food I consume (it might be for a while) then I want the good stuff!

These are not always possible options - especially if you take soylent because of your busy schedule. Sometimes you just don't have the time and/or the ability to be occupied with veggies or jerky.Besides - the xylitol would bring positive effect for…

This review seems to be summaries of some of the studies discussed, and largely debunked, previously - http://discourse.soylent.me/t/soylent-applications-overview/10778/65. Our processing takes place at or near room temperature.

Here's hoping gum chewing as an alternative to food doesn't catch on. I hate being in the proximity of a gum chewer. Like with people who quite smoking, I'm almost tempted to buy them ciggies as the lesser of the evils. (I'm a never-smoker.) On…

I also haven't started soylent (waiting my protein) but I plan on chewing gum with xylitol in it (brand doesn't matter).If you look around in google, the xylitol makes your mouth uninhabitable for the bacteria. And given that soylent is food in pure form…

I was talking about a conventional american diet. Anyway, your attention to detail is definitely appreciated here. Because Soylent is not a baked product I feel pretty confident that any Sucralose in Soylent is not exposed to those kinds of temperatures.…

bronse said: You are probably better off eating Soylent rather than having a conventional diet, which contains Sucralose anyway. My diet does not contain sucralose, don't know what this "conventional diet" is. If this paper is to be trusted, then you…

There isn't very much Sucralose in Soylent. The negative impact it has on your body if it has one at all is probably negligible. You are probably better off eating Soylent rather than having a conventional diet, which contains Sucralose anyway. If Sucralose…

Gum? I am so picky about gum (since childhood) and I found that the mentos gum is by far the best for texture. The flavor is REALLY intense at the start and fades fast which a lot of people don't like but it has Xyletol (and sorbitol which is not great)…

I'd say ping @JulioMiles and @rob, see if the research they've done ever came across this (and if not, I'm sure they won't object to getting their staff scientists' opinions). It was published in the last few months, so it may not yet have come up.…

http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/10937404.2013.842523 (open access, nov 2013) says sucralose is not so inert as previously assumed, and might be toxic when heated. I've been sent this from 5 different people, and on the face of it, doesn't look like alarmist…

Currently i don't have the money lying around, sry.

I would also buy a months Worth of supply from you, however im unsure if the Norwegian customs would reject the package or not.

@Peanut : You could try some dehydrated fruit, without added sugars or sulphur. Pears, pineapple and mango are all very chewy.

You could get a big tub of double bubble for fairly cheap. 400 pieces for around 18$ or something like that.

Well I'm not a beta tester and don't chew gum, but I'd wager that hours aren't required. We don't spend hours chewing our food. (I mean... I guess maybe some people do, but not most.) Probably like 10-15 minutes twice a day would be more than enough.…

Oh come on! Fifty two views and not a single reply?!

I would like to get feedback about chewing gum from people who have been eating mostly soylent. How many hours of chewing is enough to achieve the right amount of tooth and jaw stimulation? And I can't help but imagine that chewing chewing gum for so…

I would buy a months supply at a time from you if it meant that I could begin much earlier than what the soylent team offers (before mid 2014)...

@FlameRunner I mailed Soylent a few weeks ago about their future plans. Haven't had a reply yet though.I'd like to offer Soylent in my store eventually, but for now I'm just happy with buying in bulk and reselling with enough profit to cover my expenses,…

I tried the shipito online calculator: EDIT: Using the dimensions for a month's supply provided by Julio, 42x14x20 inch and 28 lbs, shipito calculates 176$ to germany by TNT economy. So shipping by airfreight is super expensive (

What's become of the Webshop Europe Guys? As far as I remember they wanted to organize fulfillment in europe? discourse.soylent.me Soylent Webshop Europe Dear fellow Soylent lovers, We have closely been watching Soylent for around half…

First of all, you should know the Soylent team's plans. There is no point in buying Soylent in bulk for resale if you won't be able to offer it considerably earlier.

To have worthwhile savings on shipping I do need to know how much interest there is. I can't afford buying half a container of Soylent only to be stuck with it for a year.

We = those, who are eager to buy Soylent in Europe without getting individual packages shipped from USA. If you've got the money and are accustomed to import procedures, do not hesitate. You offer Soylent in Europe = you win.

I'm in Belgium.You shouldn't trust me, but I didn't say you needed to pay up front either.I'm not sure who "we" is that should know me. I don't know how to respond to that question.I do have a business in Leuven, Belgium which makes it a little bit easier…

Where are you located?And, more importantly, why would we trust you? Do we know you?

I wouldn't mind collecting orders, ordering a shipment, do the customs stuff and send soylent out to people. Depending on how many people order, I think we can cut down the transport price a lot.

@JulioMilesWhat about, let's call it, official availability in Europe?I think it's time to share some plans more precise than 'International availability mid-2014'.

The dimensions of a week's supply of Soylent are 21x7x10" and the weight is 7 lbs. A month's supply is simply 4 of the week's supplies bundled together.

Yes, it's the simplicity that I'm after also. If I were rich, I'd be hiring someone to prepare meals to a set nutritional goal and calories. They can look up all the values on the databases and combine them into a total plan that doesn't repel (with…

An absolutely valid point indeed. It's not magic. But it is SIMPLE. And that's what I need. Something that doesn't complicate my life by forcing me to decipher what foods will be appetizing while also not making me fat. I was raised in the midwest…

evilOlive said: I have this expectation that the result of me eating Soylent 90% of the time or more will be rapid weight loss, quickly improved mental clarity and energy levels, and an immediate resolution to the needs for supplements Careful with…

Lievenscheire said: Maltodextrin has a glycemic index of 150 Not necessarily. Some maltodextrin is no better than sugar, while other maltodextrin is much closer to starch. Lievenscheire said:

I started on DIY Soylent because my mental energy drops quite often after meals. I could deduct it has to do with sugar. Even one can of softdrink can make me tired for an hour or more. I am not diabetic, had it tested several times. I just have high…

I also get headaches from all artificial sweeteners. I understood that the maltodextrin was the primary source of sweetness. How do I go about canceling my order? I have waited for so long and now this late in the game you tell us there is artificial…

Profoundly disappointed to read that sucralose is being added. I have never met a sucralose-sweetened product I could stomach. Seems like it would have been a better idea to leave the sweetening to the end user, since it's a matter of taste either way,…

Found out about this a few days ago and meant to purchase in advanced today after work. Good thing I held off on the impulse because it looks like the formula is going to keep losing authenticity until it's heath benefits are all but negated...best of…

I just wanted to echo what other people have said about sucralose tasting bad. I've found all the artificial sweeteners that I've tried, sucralose included, to have a pretty unbearably grody aftertaste.

Glad to hear it's in a small enough dose to negate the bitter aftertaste. I'm still going to hold off purchasing a full month's supply until I try it myself, but I'm optimistic. I personally can't imagine the vanillin would be a big deal, flavor-wise.…

I'm really hoping that sucralose is removed from the recipe. I've been so excited about this product for so long, and this is verging on a dealbreaker for me. Can the sucralose be packaged separately?

I've all but stopped drinking hot cocoa due to the (after)taste of sucralose. I'm watching this thread closely to figure out if I need to cancel my order. If the sweetener's only there to mask other flavors, and the overall character of the final product…

The problem is, this doesn't address the issues that people have with being unable to tolerate even small amounts of these artificial sweeteners, due to minor but unpleasant physical reactions - headaches, bloating, nausea, and more. Absolutely any solution…

Thanks for the feedback thus far. I'm going to let @rob address the scientific concerns that people have brought up (he's in meetings this afternoon), but can address the more experiential ones. Peanut said: to me Sucralose leaves a very, very unpleasant…

I'm surprised that you added the vanillin. I would probably have argued against it, but it's not a deal-breaker. You have suggested in the past that the goal for the product was neutral flavor, and this is probably not neutral. The texture stuff is appreciated.…

Even with this amount of vanillin it is still possible to change the flavor. In fact the vanillin will enhance flavors like chocolate, cinnamon, mint, and many more. One of my favorite is Mexican chocolate that includes chilli powder, chocolate, cinnamon…

Sucralose? More like sucraGROSS. ... Sorry. I just couldn't help myself. Seriously, though. Although fans of Splenda have sworn to me that it tastes just like sugar, to me Sucralose leaves a very, very unpleasant bitter aftertaste that lingers. If there's…

I personally hate sucralose, it coats my tongue with a really nasty "chemical" sweetness that lingers long after I drink something that contains it. Which is why I no longer drink anything that does. However, Soylent may contain such a small amount as…

I was surprised by the amount of vanillin (1.8g), I thought this was a typo but after some research it seems that amount is reasonable, though potentially a strong flavor. Does anyone have feedback on how this compares to other vanilla flavored products…

JulioMiles said: Please share your feedback regarding the Soyent Applications Overview here. My entirely inexpert opinion is that you should supply the taste-oriented parts (sucralose, vanillin) in a sachet separately, so as to make customisation…

I'm with wingedwolfpsion on this one. Artificial sweeteners and my stomach don't get along, even if it's only a small amount. I would greatly prefer a natural sweetener over an artificial one.

I'm so disappointed I'm almost in tears. You did the thing I never expected you to do. The one thing that makes Soylent into something I very well may not be able to use. You added an artificial sweetener. How could you have failed to find out, in…

Uhhh... can someone at Soylent please elaborate on using sucralose in the formula? This is from the nih.gov website... Splenda alters gut microflora and increases intestinal p-glycoprotein and cytochrome p-450 in male rats. Abstract Splenda is comprised…

Why is there vanillin added? I thought you were going for a more neutral taste that then could be modified by the end user to taste like whatever they wanted it to. I will get sick of vanilla flavor. How could I modify soylent with flavors that don't…

Please share your feedback regarding the Soyent Applications Overview here.

Day 0.Bought the ingredients from countdown, and some equipment - some digital cheap scales from the warehouse, mixer bottle and 3 x stainless flasks from kmart. as I am more or less backpacking at the moment, i need to be able to prepare it without…

Olive - thanks for the encouragement. Hopefully the savings due to a reduction of meds and insulin will more than pay for Soylent. Elemental - that's encouraging news about your father. Thanks.

I'm really glad to hear the good news about your dad's health. I hope I'm not deluding myself or getting my hopes up too much, but I have this expectation that the result of me eating Soylent 90% of the time or more will be rapid weight loss, quickly…

I started my diabetic overweight father on a custom recipe of soylent the day after christmas. we've tweaked it so most of his carbs come from the slow absorbing oat flour(based on low carb DRI). His sugar was running very high(200-300) regularly and…

The Glycemic Index is supposed to be "relatively low" from what I read in a post yesterday but they are planning to test that more thoroughly later as the current testing hasn't yet been official from what it sounded. I, too, am hoping to lose weight…

I am going to try Soylent because of health reasons. It seems that many here are interested in convenience and/or financial savings. Well, I'm a Type 2 diabetic who is obese. I have high blood pressure and cholesterol. Years of bad eating habits have…

It's a value add for everyone in a relationship. Or in public.

That might be a value add for the gradeschool versions, @cheapskate88

I wonder if you have a list of which countries you will be able to deliver to once international shipping starts, and if you have some sort of guaranteed list, and a list of countries you can ship to but that it is our own risk wether it gets picked up…

I too am keen to see when this will be available internationally. So much so that I was almost tempted to use a third party shipper to get around the lack of international availability at launch! I've been following this project for quite some time and…

i'm not so much into the community-thing or making videos actually,BUT i've got some personal ("successful") experience in diy-soylent over the last few months -- feel free to let me know when you're meeting, maybe i'm able to help in getting things started…

Would anyone in Berlin like to meet up and discuss Soylent? I want to get into it, make a local community and maybe make some videos/interviews about it too

Yay. No more deathly smelling farts.

MSM is not included in official Soylent. Your calculations are apt in showing that with adequate protein with a complete amino acid profile, the two sulfur amino acids should provide plenty. When I was starting out I must have either not been getting…

Hello everybody! Does anyone in this blog want to share his/her experience with soylent? And maybe the recipe as well? (Thank you for yours, LordMord) I am about to complete me recipe and would like to start next week (30 days). I would be grateful…

Stoinov -- I think this is spot-on. What matters is the SAA intake, and that should be more than covered if you're consuming an adequate supply of complete proteins. Supplementation in any forms should not be necessary.

Another article that I find interesting (or at least the discussion part of it at the end). Here is an excerpt: Any excess of SAA is oxidized to inorganic sulfate and excrete in the urine as neither organic nor inorganic excesses of sulfur can be stored.…

I'd like to preface this by saying I'm not an expert, I'm relatively new to the field, etc, but since I started I've read about just about every online resource I can find on all of the substances listed. I'm by no means authoritative, this is just my…

Awesome source. I am becoming increasingly doubtful of the holistic MSM "detox" stuff.

Good info. Thanks Stoinov!

another link from IOM that under the Adequate Intake for Inorganic Sulfate list organic sulfates as a source and explicitly lists Methionine and Cysteine. So go ahead and just look up your protein sources for the content of these two amino acids

I suppose I would favor dropping the "Sulfur" entry entirely, then, on the assumption that adequate protein intake will cover the SAA requirement. But failing that, I think re-labeling it would still be preferable to just leaving "Sulfur" as-is. If…

Yes, I understand your suggestion, people are confused about what they need. But by that logic shouldn't we just remove sulfur entirely and replace it with all of the essential amino acids? If the problem is confusion about what's important, then stressing…

Sintax -- understood and agreed, but what I'm suggesting is that the "Sulfur" field in the nutritional profile should be re-labeled as "Sulfur-containing Amino Acids" or "SAA" precisely to avoid this sort of confusion. There is no dietary requirement…

I use the requirements listed here for each of my amino acids. It adds up to 15 mg/kg for the C+M total. I'm not sure how valuable creating a separate SAA requirement would be since all of the amino acids listed are essential anyway. I think we should…

Hola yo soy de Argentina, me encantaria probar soylent, pero creo que falta mucho para que llegue aca y no dispongo de tiempo o dinero para ir reuniendo los ingredientes por separado, voy a investigar lo del RFA. Mi idea, para cuando pueda comprarlo…

Excellent post, as always. If you haven't seen it already:http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/36691-ten-months-of-research-condensed-a-total-newbies-guide-to-nootropics/ Warning, anecdotal experience ahead: Piracetam's effects will be minimal, as…

Thanks for the info Quid, it's weird how little information there seems to be on something that seems relatively important. I think your method of looking at the 13-15mg/kg body weight makes a lot more sense than the alternatives.

Agreed -- but for those who have already calculated a value for "Sulfur" to plug into the nutritional profile using the SAA content of their ingredients, applying the mass ratios calculated by Sintax above would be inappropriate. In my case, if I were…

ruipacheco said: Erm... no. nononono. Triple no. With LSD you can watch many things, none of them your real self. Ah, sorry - my fault - I'm British, and so sarcasm is assumed unless indicated otherwise. Pretend I put sarcasm tags around my previous…

Erm... no. nononono. Triple no. With LSD you can watch many things, none of them your real self.

ruipacheco said: That's the problem with the mind - who watches the watchers? That's why you take the nootropics - to give you the capacity to watch yourself. I'm told LSD has a similar effect. ruipacheco said:

WAIT. I can't shop in my undies?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!!

That's the problem with the mind - who watches the watchers? If you sprain your ankle your mind says "ouch". If you sprain your mind, the police takes you in because you think it's perfectly reasonable to go shopping in your undies only.

As to breaking my mind, well... no guarantees, but I'm still not worried. I'm pretty self aware. Maybe I'll take up meditation or something to keep balanced.

jrowe47 said: Not at all. Nothing I'm doing is physically strenuous and I enjoy my work intensely. I get 2 day weekends for downtime. I'm making the best of every minute I think ruipacheco means "breaking your mind", not your body or I might have…

ruipacheco said: Are you not scared of something breaking without you receiving a warning first? Not at all. Nothing I'm doing is physically strenuous and I enjoy my work intensely. I get 2 day weekends for downtime. I'm making the best of every minute…

jrowe47 said: I'm on book 4, and the series is great. I've also been reviewing my code, working on my cheap diy recipe, and pulling 12 hour days at work. I'm not feeling stressed at all - I feel 100% with everything I'm doing. Are you not scared of…

Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to post. I had started using piracetam and wasn't getting any results, so I paired it with Citicoline. It made me feel spacy and unfocused; worse, it seemed to bring on mild nausea. By itself, I don't notice…

I'm 9 days in. So far so good - the piracetam is starting to kick in, but it will be a couple or 5 days before it's in full swing. I'm normally a voracious reader, and I was given a set of books for Christmas, the Iron Druid chronicles. I'm on book 4,…

I'm still enjoying a certain fluidity of thought, and multitasking like a madman. Multitasking like that is, however, not unusual for me. I think there was probably a degree of placebo on the second night. I didn't like sulbutiamine very much - it had…

ruipacheco said: We still don't know the long term effect these things have on the brain. I'm terrified of trying them only to wake up one day at 55 and find out my brain turned into Swiss cheese. I don't know about you, but I like my computational…

We still don't know the long term effect these things have on the brain. I'm terrified of trying them only to wake up one day at 55 and find out my brain turned into Swiss cheese.

Gwern is well worth reading on nootropics, as he is on all things.