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Logic_2point0 - Sep 10, 2014 10:55am
Hello, I've been looking into a lot of liquid meal replacements, and stumbled upon Soylent. It having the best community and reviews. Only thing is, I'm looking to get healthy NOW, not in 5 months (estimated shipping date). I've done a lot of searching…
glasco61 - Sep 10, 2014 10:01am
Domestic purchasers selling on ebay. Domestic sales fulfilment rolling out. Absolutely nothing regarding international backers & pre-orders. OK, I'm done. I simply don't care about this any more. Sure, I'll keep my 2 week order from July '13 live. But,…
kcl5038 - Sep 10, 2014 7:34am
http://diy.soylent.me/recipes/chocolate-banana-delicousness I revised the recipe based on your recommendations, does that look to be a better balance of carb/protein/fat or should I drop more protein?
Discourse391 - Sep 10, 2014 7:10am
austonst said: A 500% increase means a 6x multiplier, not a 500x multiplier. Gah... I have gotten so bad at basic math over the last 15 years (complete absence of the need to use it in my career path, not any kind of cognitive failure. Just a skill…
AgentSpiff - Sep 10, 2014 7:04am
I replaced my Soylent pitcher with a 2L Thermos from Walmart. I just prepare it with cold water and add ice, and it stays cold through the night and all the next day without ever going in the fridge.
AgentSpiff - Sep 10, 2014 6:57am
But what isn't technical about it? Rob solved a technical problem when he hacked nutrition and now anyone can make their own People Chow, reaping the benefits of an optimal diet for dirt cheap. The more brilliant, inspired people open-source their ideas,…
materialsguy - Sep 10, 2014 6:23am
AgentSpiff said: so what happens in a world where resources are no longer an issue? Well I agree with your point if we can get to such a world. But with growing population and dwindling resources I'm not sure it's a technical solution we are looking…
Ari - Sep 10, 2014 6:12am
Yeah, got it. Better late than never! Thanks.
GeneralBlanks - Sep 10, 2014 6:03am
I am a full time student who has back to back classes all day, and would really like to be able to just drink my Soylent throughout the day.Unfortunately I don't have access to a refrigerator during the day, so I'm wondering if anyone has ideas on how…
AgentSpiff - Sep 10, 2014 5:40am
jrowe47 said: Yeah, sorry, there will always be people who desire more than others simply for the sake of having more, and that means the most clever , ruthless, or persistent of the breed will be able to disrupt any utopia. It's not human nature, it's…
Brando - Sep 10, 2014 3:12am
Thanks for the heads-up Matt!
Vicc - Sep 10, 2014 2:32am
CitizenKane said: ...I noticed that I consistently got dull headaches after eating Oatmeal Squares Cereal (brown sugar flavor). I tried that cereal once and it didn't agree with me. I'm not very susceptible to headaches but IIRC it made me feel "edgy."…
MattCauble - Sep 10, 2014 1:52am
Hey @brando. We don't have all of the product at the PA warehouse yet. Anything that isn't a starter kit or 2 week soylent pack is still being sent from California. We are working to have all of our products distributed by October. Thanks for looking…
thomaslbaker - Sep 10, 2014 12:51am
Well, I had my dinner drink that I had prepared and let sit in the refrigerator. Not as good in my opinion. It definitely thickened up, but in a vaguely slimy chia seed sort of way. While I was able to drink it, I will definitely be mixing it fresh…
materialsguy - Sep 10, 2014 12:39am
Well I admit a blender helps with the chia seeds or an overnight soak so they can gel. I typically blend in frozen fruit so I don't notice them in my final smoothie like drink. Not sure how to tell the flax seed oil is off either. Make sure your bottle…
kcl5038 - Sep 10, 2014 12:10am
I have tried Chia seeds, and they really don't mix well at all. I wasn't aware there were problems with flaxseed oil. I've been keeping my flax and fish oil refrigerated, not sure how to tell if it's bad. As for replacing protein with fat, I'm just kind…
Vicc - Sep 09, 2014 11:53pm
From time to time I have eaten a stick of butter smothered in sugar. This is a variation on the "shame stick," which is merely coated in sugar. I also prefer salted butter (the original recipe calls for unsalted).
dankohn - Sep 09, 2014 11:51pm
I don't see how burning 2000 calories a day could be high. I burn 2000 calories just by sitting in a chair (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_metabolic_rate) and then generally burn 1000 calories on top of that with intense cardio (spinning). When…
biab - Sep 09, 2014 11:23pm
Ari said: because how much butter and bacon can you really chug before you feel nauseous? While the thought of excessive amounts of butter is nauseating, I have actually eaten two pounds of bacon (packaged weight, not cooked weight) in one sitting…
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 11:12pm
materialsguy said: 100 and 200% That's the exact range I was hoping for myself actually. materialsguy said:
Vicc - Sep 09, 2014 11:00pm
Ari said: ...it's not like 2,000 kcal of fat and protein is less fattening than 2,000 kcal of carbs. That's actually what the research is indicating. If on a regular daily basis you eat 2000 calories of fat and protein, you'll gain less (or lose more)…
materialsguy - Sep 09, 2014 11:00pm
I want to second this request. Would love to hear if anyone has a good multivitamin to use. The Mega Men's are very high on the B vitamins which may be safe, but still, being at 200 or 300 % because of concerns about bio availability is one thing, but…
LazyVegan - Sep 09, 2014 10:58pm
One of these just arrived - I was curious, too. For my diy (the dry version), it blends pretty well, but the cap isn't super-secure, like the blender bottle's. I have to keep a finger on it while I'm shaking. Such a small thing to get right.
materialsguy - Sep 09, 2014 10:47pm
I think your recipe looks great and I wouldn't be worried about eating it myself. It seems similar to mine crude food 1.1 with frozen fruit. I like the greater variety you have for both protein and oil. Just some general comments for you to consider:…
JulioMiles - Sep 09, 2014 10:35pm
We're definitely working on improving the flexibility of the subscription service. Everyone consumes Soylent at different rates and we want to ensure that all customers get the right quantity delivered at the right time. Nothing ready to share yet, but…
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 10:33pm
Also, since I failed to mention this before... Has anybody made a recipe that keeps the %s close to 100%? For my own purposes, I'd like to avoid having ridiculously high values of the nutrients, regardless of their safety. I get the feeling that I'll…
biab - Sep 09, 2014 10:28pm
It will certainly make a difference for me and I suspect I'm not the only one who feels this way within the soylent community.
Spaceman - Sep 09, 2014 10:26pm
Ok, @biab - if that will convince you to purchase or make it better by @livingparadox - I will make it. I think a long post will take some time, so pls. be patient.
materialsguy - Sep 09, 2014 10:17pm
Hi livingparadox, I am going to suggest you take a look at Crude Food 1.1.It is low on carbs, total calories, and potassium because I normally add frozen fruit to the mix, but these are all easy fixes by increasing the amount of potassium citrate and…
Tordenskjold - Sep 09, 2014 10:04pm
I hope so :), but already tried that 1 week a while back. So wouldn't really count heh. By the end of the week I could mirror most of the problems people had been having. It didn't stop me from wanting more Soylent When I find room in my economy, I…
biab - Sep 09, 2014 9:59pm
Rosa Labs has not published their recipe, but they have made the full list of ingredients available. This helps people make critical decisions that range from avoiding known problematic ingredients (e.g., http://discourse.soylent.me/t/soylent-without-oats/16691)…
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 9:55pm
Hey, maybe all this waiting means you start with a more improved version of the product than we do. haha
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 9:55pm
Why exactly are you not ready to publish your recipes? If you were to open source your recipe like Rosa Labs and the other DIYers, it would give us more data points to work with and understand how different ingredients work with different physiologies…
Tordenskjold - Sep 09, 2014 9:54pm
I would love a Soylent that actually addressed all this about the different kinds of the vitamins... And used the most optimal versions
NinoJoylent - Sep 09, 2014 9:53pm
Ari said: 1314 Hi Ari, sorry for the delay. i emailed you that i will look into your case first thing tomorrow morning. regards, Ninocustomer service Joylent.eu Ari said:
materialsguy - Sep 09, 2014 9:51pm
Hi tunesmith,sorry to hear of your problems, but welcome to the fantastic world of DIY.The most common substitute for oats is mesa (a precooked corn flour used for tortillas), one of the most popular recipes is "people chow" by max which is the basis…
biab - Sep 09, 2014 9:51pm
Check out the DIY recipes (for example, the most highly rated recipes, People Chow 3.0.1 - "Tortilla Perfection!" and QuidNYC's Superfood for Him, do not list oats; FWIW, I personally couldn't stand the taste of People Chow). If you don't actually want…
Spaceman - Sep 09, 2014 9:49pm
I understand your curiosity @biab but I'm not ready to publish my recipes. We prefer to focus on results, that say by themselves: http://discourse.soylent.me/t/official-soylent-review-and-comparison/16622
austonst - Sep 09, 2014 9:40pm
Discourse391 said: When you consider that they indicate they've increased their shipping rate by 500% (not manufacturing rate!) it means that either they used to be shipping the equivalent of 1 week of Soylent every day or their numbers/math was off.…
tunesmith - Sep 09, 2014 9:18pm
Can anyone recommend a DIY version which is pretty much identical to soylent but that substitutes something else for oat flour? I'm apparently one of those unlucky people that doesn't do well with oats (which is apparently pretty common). I've had a…
Discourse391 - Sep 09, 2014 9:17pm
PS, you could refactor that number as 100,000 div 7 div 26 (the number of days between 8/8 and 9/3) to arrive at 549 weeks shipped per day.
Discourse391 - Sep 09, 2014 9:15pm
They've progressed from shipping to backers to shipping to pre-May-6 web orders (which are being lumped in with crowd funding orders). Someone recently posted that they had ordered online in February and received their shipment this week (the post was…
Kryptic - Sep 09, 2014 9:06pm
Reboshua said: Others may have already observed this, and I know diet coke is a bad thing, but mixing my soylent with some ice and diet coke is almost like having a coke float or vanilla coke. It tastes quite good. FWIW I'm going to try this tomorrow!…
biab - Sep 09, 2014 8:53pm
@Spaceman, I'm actually looking for more specific information. For example, when vernalex said: Poor Nutrition - Synthetic vitamins that are questionably healthy and quite possibly at least useless beyond just meeting deficiency diseases. D2? K1?…
thomaslbaker - Sep 09, 2014 8:50pm
While waiting for my Soylent 2 week order and monthly subscription to kick in (I am in the batch that got the delay email), I decided to try 100% Food. I placed a 1 week order for the low carb mix sampler a little less than a week ago, and it showed…
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 8:42pm
I can only guess. But based on some rough estimates of my own, utilizing general/non-committal estimates from the team, I'd say at least 6 months from now. If they keep pace, they can hopefully get to that point in 9-12 months. But I'm temporally challenged,…
biab - Sep 09, 2014 8:40pm
I'm at a similar point myself. I'm going to be placing an order in the next few weeks for one week each of four different formulations *. I know that Marion Chow works for me, but I don't want just chocolate all the time. My goal is to settle down…
bigbriar - Sep 09, 2014 8:38pm
Any idea when that will be completed
vernalex - Sep 09, 2014 8:38pm
There is nothing environmentally unfriendly about whey. Dairy products can be commercially produced in a sustainable way. That isn't to say that most dairy is produced this way, but it can be and I want it to be. There are some large scale grass-fed dairy…
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 8:26pm
Thank you! I forgot to tag him myself. >.> I was actually considering utilizing his services so I can slowly wade in DIY.
Spaceman - Sep 09, 2014 8:26pm
Sure, you can read a list of ingredients and look at Nutrition Facts in our FAQ section.
Spaceman - Sep 09, 2014 8:24pm
You're moving in a right direction, @kcl5038When we launched our 100%FOOD Low Carb version - we received a feedback that - it does not cause insulin spikes to boost diabetes and helps to loose weight. Go ahead and if you have plans to market it - we can…
vernalex - Sep 09, 2014 8:23pm
Yeah, I am most likely going to try some Schmoylent soon, although I wish it didn't contain psyllium husks.
biab - Sep 09, 2014 8:23pm
Tagging @axcho because I know he's gained a lot of experience doing lots of customized versions.
biab - Sep 09, 2014 8:21pm
Is the 100%Food recipe available for actual DIY (e.g., recipe available on http://diy.soylent.me or a list of ingredients ala http://blog.soylent.me/post/73232819517/there-is-more-to-food-than-nutrition-even-a & http://blog.soylent.me/post/69835344439/soylent-micronutrient-breakdown)?
Spaceman - Sep 09, 2014 8:20pm
And if we do not get an ideal solution - DIY-producers will support!
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 8:19pm
The customizations on my Soylent are getting so extensive, I'm nearly heading into DIY territory as it is. And I figure, if I'm going to put so much effort into preparation, I might as well go full DIY and skip out on the extras in official like sucralose…
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 8:13pm
You mean for new orders to receive within a month? Presumably once they catch up with the post-backer order queue.
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 7:52pm
The only way I know how to throttle it is to periodically cancel your subscription, then renew it after a month or so. Its definitely not the most convenient, but I expect Rosa Labs to change it, since its been a common complaint.
livingparadox - Sep 09, 2014 7:46pm
Well, thank you very much for all of that. I did not know this... Hopefully Rosa Labs can use this information to improve Soylent.
bigbriar - Sep 09, 2014 7:33pm
Been gone a while, just wondering if things are still a joke on the fulfillment side or if I could expect things to normalize this fall. I live in So Cal not far from Rosa. Will probably just get some space nutrients or whatever if otherwise. Thanks…
Exordium01 - Sep 09, 2014 7:21pm
Soylent contains more iron than you need. The FDA iron dietary guideline is actually pretty high. Edit: Some of the health benefits from drinking tea/oily coffee (espresso, french press) in men is from the reduction of excess iron.
Spaceman - Sep 09, 2014 7:15pm
Today I received a suggestion to make larger bottles for Low Carb version of 100%FOOD. Increased amount of protein makes it too thick to mix in 16 oz. But large bottle increases the shipping costs as well.Are you ready for that?
Spaceman - Sep 09, 2014 7:12pm
Don't afraid some extra sugar in your intake. If it comes as a part of complex meal - it does not cause extreme spikes in your blood. I add cola in 100%FOOD when I need to change a taste. It's good. For others - you may just add freeze dried coffee to…
kcl5038 - Sep 09, 2014 7:07pm
Alright, I stated working on this soylent roughly6 months ago, and I've been using it for roughly 60% of my meals since then. I've been adjusting it for taste and based on how I've felt since then, and I finally think I found a recipe that I can commit…
Ari - Sep 09, 2014 6:52pm
The point of low-carb diets (or any diets) is that it makes you eat less calories. Eating only low-carb food will cause you to feel more full (since fat and protein is more filling) and eat less in general (because how much butter and bacon can you really…
MentalNomad - Sep 09, 2014 6:39pm
There's nothing inherently wrong with your plan, and canola oil is often used a popping oil to make "neutral" popcorn before flavoring it. The potential downsides: The heated oil may not be AS healthy as unheated. The popper probably doesn't make it…
Duskwave - Sep 09, 2014 6:25pm
The odds of it being maltodextrin are very, very low. Thousands upon thousands of things would be doing it. Also, I used to eat a ton of that cereal, great stuff (never gave me headaches).
MentalNomad - Sep 09, 2014 6:05pm
TegidTathal said: I thought somewhere had listed that they were using Tapioca Maltodextrin, not Corn. I don't know if this is still accurate or not. They used tapioca maltodextrin in early trials, but switched to corn maltodextrin before they shipped…
Brando - Sep 09, 2014 5:27pm
Hi Matt. I'm in Virginia, near Washington DC but my shipments have originated from CA. Can we change this to your PA warehouse? Lower shipping costs for you and quicker delivery for me. Thanks
Muggle - Sep 09, 2014 4:48pm
Cool! I've tried products from both you and Axcho... The freedom of choice is a great thing. Thanks for allowing us to expand those choices even further!
CitizenKane - Sep 09, 2014 4:33pm
As I was thinking about this last night, it occurred to me that I've experienced this pain with two other food products. In college, I use to get the same dull headaches. It took me close to a year to figure out it was Easy Mac (which I ate in college…
Spaceman - Sep 09, 2014 4:07pm
We're about to release a completely renovated Powdered Foods Marketplace this week. While producers make their last adjustments - you may join to them or make your suggestions. Let's make more for different formulas for different needs.
nwoll27 - Sep 09, 2014 4:06pm
In "Time Enough for Love" the problem of the benevolent dictatorship is solved by the fact that pretty much everyone lives forever, so the good ones live for generations while the bad ones are overthrown relatively quickly "Stranger in a Strange Land"…
JeffLeBert - Sep 09, 2014 3:25pm
I agree completely. I think the odds of the son of a Benign Dictator would probably not be a good leader. And people aren't smart enough to pick a good leader. I've read a bunch of Heinlein. I loved "Stranger in a Strange Land" a couple times. Loved…
nwoll27 - Sep 09, 2014 3:11pm
JeffLeBert said: Benign Dictatorship was the best form of government Yeah, that works for about the length of time the first dictator maintains power and ends the moment the second dictator fills his place. I'm going to assume you've read Robert Heinlein…
TegidTathal - Sep 09, 2014 3:05pm
I thought somewhere had listed that they were using Tapioca Maltodextrin, not Corn. I don't know if this is still accurate or not.
JeffLeBert - Sep 09, 2014 2:57pm
"I, for one, welcome our computer overlords..." A fun quote from Ken Jennings who was the top Jeopardy winner. He wrote this after his final answer after being soundly beaten by Watson (the IBM "artificial intelligence"). I have always thought the Benign…
Maragakis - Sep 09, 2014 2:17pm
I'm a one week backer, (june or july 2013 I forget) no kit yet. Soon I hope
nwoll27 - Sep 09, 2014 1:31pm
AgentSpiff said: What a fantastic thread, I haven't seen this much idealism since Woodstock. Exactly why I've given it such a wide berth AgentSpiff said:
jrowe47 - Sep 09, 2014 12:25pm
Yeah, sorry, there will always be people who desire more than others simply for the sake of having more, and that means the most clever , ruthless, or persistent of the breed will be able to disrupt any utopia. It's not human nature, it's the nature of…
michael_slosson - Sep 09, 2014 11:21am
Thought I should post the results--on day 4 now and no problems whatsoever. Just having a bratwurst with corn syrup on the ingredients label was enough for me to notice a mood swing, and I've felt in a better mood than usual on Soylent.
asympt - Sep 09, 2014 10:13am
I'm glad it doesn't have whey for environmental reasons. (I'm too easily tempted by dairy products as it is.)
AgentSpiff - Sep 09, 2014 8:30am
So this explains the gas problem. Soylent becomes a bomb in your stomach that explodes from your butt.
AgentSpiff - Sep 09, 2014 8:26am
I have one of these: www.walmart.com Walmart: Thermos Stainless Steel 2-Liter Beverage Bottle, Midnight Blue It is absolutely perfect, and has replaced my Soylent pitcher. Because I make mine with cold brew…
AgentSpiff - Sep 09, 2014 7:43am
What a fantastic thread, I haven't seen this much idealism since Woodstock. I applaud livingparadox's rational worldview, and I agree that an anarcho-capitalist society would fall utterly short of utopia. What may have worked famously in medieval Iceland…
erichsalvesen - Sep 09, 2014 7:29am
You can cancel subscriptions and create new subscriptions 2 weeks prior to when you need your next shipment. It's worked for me so far.
Hoyer - Sep 09, 2014 6:26am
This just so happened to me over weekend. Luckily I work in a company with an excellent cleaning service. I heard it yesterday, but then I couldnĀ“t come for work. So when I arived today, my cubicle was clean as a fresh sheet. Only the ceiling straight…
inod3 - Sep 09, 2014 5:48am
michaelszczotka said: Yeah...so im not expecting it anytime soon..pissed off I missed it by a day haha. I don't think that's an important day for your order. Yes, if you had ordered more than just a week's worth you would have probably received it…
materialsguy - Sep 09, 2014 5:34am
Great list. I have been reluctant to switch from DIY to Soylent and now I have a handy list to give people who ask why I would bother to make my own just to save 5$ a day.
michaelszczotka - Sep 09, 2014 5:15am
Yeah...so im not expecting it anytime soon..pissed off I missed it by a day haha.
Zenman - Sep 09, 2014 5:14am
Michaelszczotka, you ordered a week's worth on May 6th of 2014?
Spaceman - Sep 09, 2014 5:12am
Do you consider any DIY-formulas?
michaelszczotka - Sep 09, 2014 5:09am
Ordered a week on May 6th and still nada..tomorrow is the first day of the extended timeline they gave me. Hoping to at least get an email for the starter kit soonish. Supposed to receive anywhere from tommorow to a month from now. Hoping for closer to…
Raylingh - Sep 09, 2014 4:25am
Seconded. I have a similar routine. I think that @JulioMiles had mentioned something about subscription customization in the works. At any rate, I'm expecting some sort of announcement soon. Shipping seems to be picking up and I think we're nearing some…
mark_engelberg - Sep 09, 2014 4:17am
I've settled into a routine where I am consistently using one package of soylent every 1.5 to 2 days. Right now, I have a monthly subscription, since that is the most cost effective way to order Soylent, but it's pretty clear that I won't be able to…
vernalex - Sep 09, 2014 4:03am
Well, I'll explain a bit more. The four I said in my original post are expanded below. The form of Vitamin D in Soylent is natural, but the form contained in Soylent is Vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol), which is produced by fungal irradiation. The natural…
MentalNomad - Sep 09, 2014 2:50am
I believe it's only an issue if you drink the tea WITH your soylent. I used to drink tea with many meals, but I don't drink anything with my soylent.
Garrettm - Sep 09, 2014 1:58am
Thank you to both of you.
tyroney - Sep 09, 2014 12:06am
One thought to add - the only time I experienced similar pain recently was my own fault; I forgot my AM coffee some recent weekend. Any chance those with base-of-head pain are consuming less caffeine in the process of soylenting?

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