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and don't forget to add whatever you're padding out the raw meal with to your cost calculation. A gallon of milk to mix it with every two days will significantly bump your costs, for example. Depending on what you're adding in, it may be as expensive…

I do plan on taking it and altering it, like I said, it is missing things that I would have to add. But yeah haha, it would last forever at that rate.

Hey if you can survive on 392 calories per day, your two weeks of soylent is going to last, like, forever man!

So I was out at Whole Foods to purchase some more whey protein and I came across this product called "Raw Meal". It also claims to be a complete meal replacement (for the most part, I looked at the nutrition label and it is missing a few things) and unlike…

I'm no expert on the whole Gut Bacteria area but I would have thought that if you at least eat some normal food along with Soylent that should be enough to keep them going. My plan is to have Soylent for 2 meals a day and then a normal meal either at…

Sure, I'm aware of fecal transplants. But is that really a solution? What I'm reading seems to suggest that loss of gut bacteria is almost certain to occur as only the bacteria that can feed off Soylent will thrive. A fecal transplant isn't exactly a…

yup... getting someone elses poop transplanted into your butt (to make it sound childish)

Oh! I have a friend with the same problem on the FODMAP diet. She is also optimistic about Soylent for that reason. That diet is whack, but stomach problems are whacker. As for gut bacteria, I don't think it's really cause for concern. Worst case scenario,…

I first heard about Soylent near to when the first press coverage started to emerge, and I immediately saw its potential as a way to help with my IBS symptoms. Now that its nutrition facts have come out and shipping appears close, I've become extremely…

My recipe is a little low in vitamins k and c. Spinach, however, is high in both. So now it is my extreme pleasure to debut to you... A New Soylent Green recipe: Feta and Spinach Pizza! I had a bit of a mix up with this beauty. I used too much oil…

Yeah, me too. I love my morning coffee and have no plans to give it up.

Today I tried a 50/50 blend of pre-cooked maise meal and oat flower, it actually tastes pretty good.

Once again, thank you all for being so awesome!

@isaackotlicky, All forms of cooking can increase oxidative stress in polyunsaturated fats, proportionally reducing the benefit you're getting from essential fatty acids and eventually rendering them more harmful than beneficial (at very high temperatures,…

Nice bit of info.I'm currently using a 1:1 ratio in my soylent for the omegas. Out of my total fats, a little over a 3rd is mono, 1/10th is saturated, and the remaining is split evenly between polys and omegas 3&6.I'm keeping my newest set of cold ground…

Thank you! I was vaguely aware of some changes in the way some people were thinking about fats, and was hoping to find the hard data.

Masa, masa man, I gotta be a masa man... Sorry, couldn't resist.

Listed some more on Ebay if anyone is interested

Here are a couple of sources that point to risks that arise from PUFA intake higher than 10% total energy:http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/1/197S.longhttp://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/80/3/550.long Other studies (some of them actually designed to…

Heart.org seems to disagree with you on polyunsaturated fats in this article here: http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/Fats101/Polyunsaturated-Fats_UCM_301461_Article.jsp Do you have any links where I can read in more detail the…

Thank you Quid, I think I will probably continue to stick with olive oil. It isn't broken, other than requiring me to add one thing to the liquid mix, which isn't a lot of hassle, and well worth it if it makes a difference. So Polyunsaturated fat should…

Behold, my newest creation: Key Lime Soylent! No actual people were harmed in the making of this soylent Snapshot_20140214.JPG1600x1200 151 KB It's a bit hard to see with the white chocolate on top, but it's a nice emerald green.Recipe as follows:…

I would (and do) take the nutritional product label on a commoditized foodstuff like masa harina with a giant grain of salt (provided you're not talking about a product that is fortified / enriched). There will be significant variation in the micronutrient…

My concern with the Minsa is that it lists 25% Calcium RDA per 30g serving, whereas all the other brands I've seen are more like 2%. If the calcium information is accurate, using only Minsa could potentially result in a calcium overdose (and I'm deathly…

@SSSS and @cohron -- I stand corrected... I guess that's what I get for living in Manhattan. Masa costs a good bit more than that here, even at Target and the bodegas I've checked out in East Harlem. At any rate, I guess my point is that coconut flour…

TrainerNathan said: For an even more short-term solution (especially before Soylent actually releases... stupid delays), I like Optimum Nutrition's Serious Mass, I've found it cheapest on Amazon, if you have Prime and are in the US. Thanks! I am in…

ChrisRArendt said: Please, for the sake of quality of this thread, we should be sticking to answering the original posting, though I do thank you all for your suggestions otherwise to this point. Welcome to the internet. It's full of human beings.…

I live in Houston, TX. My wife just picked up a 4.4 lb (2 kg) for $3 at Krogers yesterday.

Every grocery store I've checked has had Maseca for less than $3 for 2 kg. Even drug stores like Walgreens have it, albeit at a slightly higher price. The Walmarts also have Masabrosa which is basically the same but a bit cheaper. In some stores I've…

Not really. Despite our proximity to Mexico, most of us here in the U.S. will have trouble finding Maseca for less than $5/kg (either locally or online, factoring in shipping). For those who can deal with a 50lb bulk purchase, the price might get down…

well coconut flor will only work in a coconut land, in Europe and USA it's to dame expensive.

How about Team Coconut Flour for ketosis? Otherwise I'd have to say (the nixtamalized) Team Masa edges out the competition on the basis of digestibility.

While it's possible that I'm biased toward @snowboardutah's wise approach, I'm inclined to agree that caution is warranted here. I recently decided to cut the flaxseeds out of my recipe because of the potential harm that could be caused by their lignan…

As someone with a high metabolism, it's pretty funny seeing everyone freaking out about 4k calories. When I'm lifting and running seriously 3000-3500 is normal for me and I'm 5'6'' and 140lbs.

There have been a couple of times in my life that I've needed to be on high calorie diets like this, (due to swim team, amongst other strenuous activities). While I would not recommend it for the long haul, a very pure whey protein and a maltodextrin…

Thanks for this input! That is exactly what I've been trying to do ramp up calories while ramping up physical activity (end goal is 2-4 hours a day). I am considering taking the Soylent nutritional information along with some of the products / ideas listed…

Hey, I understand your issues, as I've had trouble maintaining my weight while doing intensive weight lifting and kung fu training before and have put myself on a 3,500-4,000 kCal diet. Try to track your weight about twice a week to see where you are…

what were your reasons again for wanted to consume 4000 calories?... what is your weight right now? Define your active lifestyle? do you bike or run all day?

You're right, I should not have given any specifics in my original post; that would have kept things more simple. I'll be doing just as you're suggesting - seeking advice from a nutritionist. Thanks again!

Honestly, you deserve the pressure. You are making several questionable claims. Allowing questionable claims to go without scrutiny is irresponsible, regardless of how innocuous they may seem. ChrisRArendt said: for the sake of quality of this thread…

You don't need to put on the pressure like this any longer; I am competent enough to understand there are health risks associated with altering my diet significantly. I have health insurance, and will be seeking medical professionals throughout the process…

ChrisRArendt said: I'm thinking 4,000 calories would be a good daily intake Are you training for a marathon? That's the only reason I can think of that you would need that many calories per day. And the "I'm thinking" tells me you haven't talked about…

I'd suggest adding a few tablespoons of resistant starch. Resistant starch is associated with better insulin sensitivity and lower circulating blood glucose. Add as much mct oil as your stomach/palette will tolerate. Mix soylent with whole milk or coconut…

Fairly simple, add more fat, preferably saturated fat or medium-chained trigycerides. Coconut oil or MCT oil are good sources.

Also, it is my understanding that the glycemic index of maltodextrin by itself can also vary widely, depending on how it was produced. It has been stated (by Rob, I believe) that the maltodextrin used in Soylent has a lower-than-average glycemic index.

I would be interested to know as well. I am currently using MCT Oil, Extra Virgin Olive Oil, and ground up flax seed. But just noticed the other day that the originator for the soylent recipe that I am following just eliminated flax seed and is now…

I've been using the Hacker School recipe with generally pretty good results for over a month now, doing breakfast and lunch soylent and regular food for dinner with regular food for most of the weekend. It seems like it would be a bit more convenient…

Good info, good clarification, and a good reference. Nice posting trifecta!

You'd probably want to keep same caloric ratio, 50% carb, 30% protein, 20% fat, you can use any type of maltodextrin, dextrin, or even sugar. Protein can come from wherever as well: whey, rice, soy, etc. Just make sure your carb and protein source don't…

@isaackotlicky isaackotlicky said: If a person is actually diabetic or pre-diabetic, it would be smarter to switch out the malto for a different starch That is not quiet correct. The issue with many maltodextrins is that they have a high Glycemic…

Ah, I see. Well, I'm not pre-diabetic, or I don't think I am. I tend to be pretty healthy despite my horrendous diet. Did they ever say how much maltodextrin was in there? (It's at the top of the ingredient list, hmm...) And then I'll have to go look…

While technically you are right, and maltodextrin isn't a sugar (glucose, fructose, lactose, etc.), it is a starch polymer comprised of chained glucose, which is pure sugar. It's better then spiking your food with pure sugar, but not by that much. Since…

I'll admit that I'm kind of skimming, but their nutritional block they posted seems to indicate 2g of sugars per serving, or I assume 6g of sugar per day. Here I sit, drinking my 36g of sugar single-serving energy drink... like I said, it's not the worst…

Well, technically, the malto IS a truckload of sugar... That's why I'm sticking with my DIY at least until I get my weight to where I want it. Much easier to control things that way...

So, add me to the list of people not thrilled with the sucralose addition. However, after reading this thread and the Soylent guys' responses as well as others, I'm willing to concede that my hatred of it might be irrational due to the history of artificial…

Eh. For me, coffee is just a caffeine delivery system. Beer, on the other hand, I'm pretty sure I would give up most other things first...

What about subbing in quinoa and chia for those of us that are gluten intolerant?

We've definitely all flown with our carry-on containing many unmarked ziploc bags of Soylent, never any issue. TSA once made me throw out a few oil bottles though, but otherwise it's been effortless.

Add me to the pro-coffee list. I gave up drinking beer about four years ago. I miss it but understand why I did it. But coffee is one of my few remaining dietary joys. It stays. When I gave up beer, I also gave up most of my public life. If I gave…

genaio said: Unless you want your mom detained by the TSA at her outgoing airport, I don't think having her try to board an international flight with a suitcase full of whitish powder is such a great idea. I believe there have been one or two posts…

unsynchronized said: no caffeine No...caffeine? I know what those words mean, but when you put them together like that they make no sense. I'm an old school computer geek. I'm 40% caffeine. (thumps chest) If I get too much blood in my caffeine supply,…

EveB said: I'm planning to include some extra food because I'm a believer in fiber for clearing out the system health. Soylent already has quite a bit of fiber as of the last update, so there shouldn't be much need for extra supplemental sources -…

starchasertyger said: Could also be caffeine withdrawl. I KNOW that'd happen to me 2-3 days after I stopped caffeine intake. Just do what I did.Add A measured amount of instant coffee powder to the ingredients, and reduce the dose over time. Eventually…

I'm planning to include some extra food because I'm a believer in fiber for clearing out the system health. But I'm more likely to grab some celery or broccoli which will give my teeth something to do. Regarding gum chewing, remember that it's not normal…

That is actually a very interesting paper, thank you for sharing. There are several ways in which their results could be interpreted. I found it very interesting that the act of chewing appears to increase blood flow in several key central nervous system…

Could also be caffeine withdrawl. I KNOW that'd happen to me 2-3 days after I stopped caffeine intake.

I'll probably grab some (non-candyish) gum, as a few people have mentioned in the past. Worst-case, it's generally irrelevant; best-case, it provides some amount of benefit.

We've all heard a lot about sucralose in this thread...let me list some other concerns that seem relevant... "Sucralose has a bad aftertaste." I believe you--no one who's had soda with real sugar and soda with HFCS can tell you they don't notice a difference…

You'd be surprised When she visited me for Christmas, she brought me an unmarked bag full of laundry powder, with no problems. So official packages of Soylent would probably not be a big deal at all

Unless you want your mom detained by the TSA at her outgoing airport, I don't think having her try to board an international flight with a suitcase full of whitish powder is such a great idea.

jrowe47 is dismissing this too fast. Sure, correlation does not imply causation. So how would you check if it's correlation and not causation? Well, you could randomly take animals, extract their molars, and then see what that does to cognitive function…

I'm sure they wouldn't mind reducing your order if you contact them. You could cancel everything but a week, give it a try, and if you don't like it wait for another formulation to come out further down the timeline.

Just chew some sugar-free gum. Xylitol gum is probably the best option for the dental & blood sugar benefits.

** ..but it does waggle its eyebrows suggestively and gesture furtively while mouthing "look over there." ** You clearly didn't read the paper. The very first cited study at the start of the literature review focuses on molar extraction which is not…

** Correlation does not imply causation. ** Older mammals lose their teeth as a process of aging, which also coincides with cognitive and other forms of physiological decline. This paper is ridiculous.

This paper, which was mentioned in the popular blog slatestarcodex.com, discusses the possible correlation between chewing and cognitive deficiency. A quick search has shown me that some users report deteoriation in their chewing abilities after using…

I'm extremely upset about the addition of sucralose. I've never been able to tolerate any supplement that has it. I thought soylent was going to be different. I understand you want a marketable taste but it's not something the body needs. Now I'm…

See how you feel after one meal. I jumped right into 2/3 meal replacement. I've only done full replacement sporadically here and there. Some people might end up with an adjustment period, but only for the fiber, I think. I imagine the most you'd need…

I jumped all in for about a week, got the headaches and it went away in a few days. I think the smarter approach would have been replace breakfast a few days, then replace breakfast and lunch, then go all in (if you want).

Folks who go all in can get headaches at day 3 or so, usually getting used to changes in vitamin levels - potassium / sulfer etc. I tend to think easing in is better for anything.

Yeah I guess I don't see any downside to take a week or two to ease into 3 meals a day of Soylent.

I replaced my breakfast and lunch with DIY, and as my stomach shrunk I slowly replaced my dinners with it also over a period of about 2 weeks.

I started my DIY recipe a month ago, and I went all in from the beginning. All in being about 90% soylent, which is all I intend to do on a regular basis as I expect to be eating out socially 1-3 times a week. I also expect there will be periods of…

I was also wondering this.

So, I am wondering if there's any consensus from those who have tried Soylent or a DIY version.... Is it recommended to ease into it by starting out drinking one a day for a bit, then two a day and so on? -J

If this thread is correct, a day's worth of Soylent is about 1 pound (500 grams). So I can see it being feasible for wilderness treks if you were able to get your water on site. With items like Lifestraw or Katadyn filters that could be quite easy (the…

buy rolled oats. and put them in the blender to make cheap oat flour. Here in Sweden you can buy 1,5Kg of oats for 1$ or 1.5$/kg at a local ICA Super market And that is including a 20%taxation in the store i think you can find cheaper in the states

hey there, we're from germany too. Just tried soylent for two weeks. If you're still into soylent and from karlsruhe - contact me!btw besides of myprotein, bulkpowders.com is a great source!

Where are you buying oat flour that's cheaper than masa? Masa at grocery stores is no more than $3 for 2 kg / 4.4 lb. That's about 4 cents per ounce. (Walmart has a brand that's about 3 cents per ounce but I haven't tried it yet.) Ordering online…

larry_lynch71 said: weight as well as increasing the number of meals one can carry on a hike you still need to carry 2 to 3 litres of water per day (or carry some means of boiling stream water).unless of course you are hiking somewhere that there is…

Outside of the benefits that come from obtaining nutrition via liquids versus solids, it is the reduction in backpack weight as well as increasing the number of meals one can carry on a hike. A boon for increasing the amount of time one can spend in nature…

@JulioMiles, @rob Do you have a list of countries to which you will initially begin shipping? I'm living in Poland, but my mom will be visiting in May from California; I'm trying to decide how much time/money would be saved in trying to convince her to…

Oats win1 Lower GI and contains some nutritions and fiber.2 cheaper per mass.3 gives a bulk to the intestine.

In most of the recipes there appear to be two major base camps for soylent. Team Oat has the MVP 'Soylent' but both are capable of producing a recipe meets 100%+ of nutritional requirements. I am curious for those that chose one vs the other what the…

Nope, if we had a more accurate date we would be stating that, rather than mid-2014.

Is there any timeframe for when it will become available for international shipping? You know, besides mid-2014?

im interrested, how much would you be charging ontop of the original price? and will you link it? also, I assume you don't have the soylent yet? so you will ship when you have it? Edit: ahh I gotcha, I will perhaps order a batch from you within the…

If you live outside of the U.S and would like the opportunity to try soylent sooner rather than later, I will be selling some of my pre-orders on Ebay - shipping world wide.

There is one question about the ingredients list i have:Is it just me, or is Vitamin B2 (as riboflavin) twice on the list?Once at position 12 of the 'Vitamin and Mineral Blend' and a second time at the very end... Were they unsure about the amount and…

I hope that in the future, or hopefully even this year, you could literally calculate your exact carbon footprint from soylent much easier. I'd love to see the full cycle, from ingredient being created/grown whatever, 'til it ends up in my soylent. I'd…