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MentalNomad - Sep 12, 2014 10:54pm
All too likely. It's why I took the DIY plunge... But I'm glad I did. (Not everyone would be.)
MentalNomad - Sep 12, 2014 10:53pm
Carnitine has been linked both to benefits and to diseases.... Like many other things. Calling it "desperately unwise" is a desperate overstatement.
livingparadox - Sep 12, 2014 10:29pm
I actually describe it to people as All the vitamins, minerals, fats, proteins, and carbs you need on regular basis in one drink Or, alternatively it's like that futuristic "everything you need in a pill" thing, but in a shake
wingedwolfpsion - Sep 12, 2014 10:20pm
Carnitine has just been linked to cardiovascular disease, due to toxins secreted by bacteria in the intestinal tract which use carnitine as a fuel source. It's desperately unwise to deliberately consume carnitine on a regular basis, at this point. http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/new-study-links-l-carnitine-in-red-meat-to-heart-disease-201304176083
qgroff - Sep 12, 2014 10:16pm
This post struck me as non-legit at first, but I read some about lupin flour and it looks pretty good. I'm interested. I'll be keeping a watch on this post and if some people have good experiences, maybe we can suggest a recipe to @axcho. I don't have…
arthur - Sep 12, 2014 9:57pm
@cohron I did create a DIY recipe (and I have actually been getting most of my calories through it for the last 2 months), but I did not use the DIY tool. I prefer an simple google document. @AriMy recipe provides just enough methionine to meet the RDA.…
Duskwave - Sep 12, 2014 9:28pm
The constant mention of frozen burritos keeps making me think. (I once lived almost exclusively on them, but it reached the point where I had to eliminate all beans from my diet for a couple years because of intestinal inflammation whenever I ate them.…
inod3 - Sep 12, 2014 9:22pm
MentalNomad said: Most apparently good diets are low in one thing or another or, usually, several. This is not a cultural fault, it's simply not as simple as most people think, even in the industrialized world. That's my view, in a nutshell as well.…
Duskwave - Sep 12, 2014 9:21pm
I use almond meal as one of the fat sources in my DIY. I do find the grit an issue, and I'm using half as much. You'll want an omega-3 fat source- I like flaxseed meal, personally. I'd recommend milk for a base if you can do dairy. It covers a lot of…
axcho - Sep 12, 2014 8:57pm
Firefly = <3 That is all.
Ari - Sep 12, 2014 8:53pm
Spaceman said: I think there is no one answer to your question @Ari.We're different and always will be looking for new healthy foods we can fit our needs better. Yeah, sure. I wasn't expecting a definitive answer, just want people's thoughts on the…
Ari - Sep 12, 2014 8:47pm
LazyVegan said: But I think that the diy app is a great tool for applying what we do know. I'd suggest plugging your regular, healthy diet into the app. The USDA database is built in, so you can easily add more than 8,000 foods. Whole foods might supply…
biab - Sep 12, 2014 8:40pm
On the "Recipe Editor" tab, you can change the nutrition profile to compare your recipe against. After you do that, you can also switch back to the "Overview" tab and get a more common (at least in the US) view of the nutrient profile. Based on U.S.…
tylutki - Sep 12, 2014 8:40pm
Actually, soy lecithin isn't an ingredient of Soylent as far as I can tell. en.wikipedia.org Soylent (drink) Soylent is an open source nutritional drink. Its creator, software engineer Rob Rhinehart, researched nutritional…
Wio - Sep 12, 2014 8:00pm
There are some limitations that Soylent is currently stuck with. The first is that currently it is tailored to a typical person as opposed to the individual. The second is that it doesn't have variety in flavor and texture. The third is that it has to…
Spaceman - Sep 12, 2014 6:55pm
I think there is no one answer to your question @Ari.We're different and always will be looking for new healthy foods we can fit our needs better. I like you combination of healthy real food & Joylent for every day (I do the same with my products).But…
Spaceman - Sep 12, 2014 6:44pm
Regarding cholesterol - while some people need it, others are looking for ways how to reduce it.Recently I received a feedback from a customer that his level dropped down due to taking 100%FOOD on breakfast & lunch. discourse.powderedfoods.com…
Spaceman - Sep 12, 2014 6:39pm
Yes we used round stickers for blind tests, they worked well.As well as we printed our first stickers on laser printer.For the first time it was a good solution, but for a current volume of production and speed of labelling - we need rolls. We can get…
LazyVegan - Sep 12, 2014 6:30pm
On official Soylent for only two days, I experienced the digestive issues that many have described and otherwise felt unwell. I've been vegan for thirty years and my regular diet was probably better than the SAD. I've noticed a few similar experiences…
Muggle - Sep 12, 2014 6:16pm
Yes, maybe, potentially, possible or not...See link for guess-ta-mates.... http://blog.soylent.me/post/96572963857/current-production-and-fulfillment-status
LauraT - Sep 12, 2014 6:07pm
Soylent - All the protein, vitamins and carbs of your grandma's best turkey dinner Yes, this is shameless plagiarism from Firefly. I <3 Firefly. Alternatively: Soylent - All the protein, vitamins and carbs of your grandma's best turkey dinner, without…
Muggle - Sep 12, 2014 5:57pm
For example: Soylent - It just works Soylent - So simple even an engineer can use it Soylent - There is no substitute Soylent - Power is nothing without control Soylent - Damn good eatin
DarkbyDarkWest - Sep 12, 2014 5:54pm
Is it really likely to be that long for new orders?
MentalNomad - Sep 12, 2014 5:46pm
I don't agree with your concern on the Vitamin A - in fact, in my DIY, I use considerably more of most vites (I use LEF's Mix). I'd emphasize two points: You refer to comparing it to a regular healthy diet. I contend that a regular diet and a healthy…
Tetsuo - Sep 12, 2014 5:21pm
Whey protein isolate should be safe for FODMAP but might not be for IBS, personally a small scoop of whey protein isolate is enough to make me seriously sick. Also protein powders have never been tested by monash university so we cannot be sure, we know…
LauraT - Sep 12, 2014 5:06pm
We just have so many options here, and the easiest and/or cheapest ones are almost NEVER the healthy way to go. It just makes making the good decisions a little harder. I could go to the grocery store and buy healthy things, or I could just swing through…
Ari - Sep 12, 2014 5:02pm
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that only Americans eat unhealthily. I do feel well, have no health problems, but while it's certainly affordable, it's more costly than (European) soylent, and it's certainly not that convenient. I'm not just asking for…
MentalNomad - Sep 12, 2014 4:57pm
Just to add on - whey protein isolate and soy protein isolate is safe on a FODMAP diet, as long as any other ingredients are also safe. Whey protein concentrate may be safe, but only if it indicates that it's lactose-free. The popular NOW Foods whey…
MentalNomad - Sep 12, 2014 4:53pm
I think it has nothing to do with being American. Soylent is comparatively cheaper domestically, but that's about it. If you are genuinely getting all your micros and eating the kind of diet you describe, and feel well, and have no weight problems,…
willi_wuerfel - Sep 12, 2014 4:16pm
Allright... I completed the formula. Made small adjustments to the carb/protein ratio. The vitamins and minerals still have some flaws, but are on a good way. Today I made the first try: Mixed everything in 2l water and filled it into 5 serving bottles,…
livingparadox - Sep 12, 2014 3:51pm
Bumping, because if I'm going to start DIY, I'm probably going to want to make use of information like this
livingparadox - Sep 12, 2014 3:39pm
A traditionally healthy diet has the advantage of being more flexible, since any unique needs can be met by eating more or less of certain foods. Soylent the other hand, provides a far more consistent nutrition. And it has the additional advantage of…
Ari - Sep 12, 2014 3:15pm
How healthy do you think S/soylent is compared to a "healthy diet"? Here I'm referring to a diet consisting of lots of veggies and fruit, fish and some lean meat, micronutrient complete, etc. Soylent tends to be compared to the SAD (Standard American…
cohron - Sep 12, 2014 2:34pm
@ArthurJump in and create a diy recipe. It isn't terribly hard, just takes a bit of effort and time. Then the all important final test - TASTE. If you like it, chances are other might too. john
sadrobotsings - Sep 12, 2014 2:11pm
Ooooh yeah. Big time.
MentalNomad - Sep 12, 2014 1:52pm
I don't think we should be concerned about Soylent "dependence." The balance of gut bacteria may change on exclusive Soylent, and some strains may disappear (though it's more likely they'll just become very scarce). But they'll come back when you get…
Ari - Sep 12, 2014 1:45pm
What I've read about it seems legit to me, but it's probably pretty difficult in normal life, since you need some methionine, but too much cancels the effect. On a 100% Soylent diet based on lupine flour it could be doable, perhaps?
tabbyc - Sep 12, 2014 12:09pm
I don't have very specific instructions. I was just playing around with different amounts of water to make a doughey consistency, then plopping them in balls or spreading them out into cookie shapes on a pan and baking at different temps for different…
AlisonG - Sep 12, 2014 11:59am
Thanks I did some salt this last batch and it seems a little better. I only add chocolate powder (80 calories) and a little cinnamon. Though I am now getting more of the aftertaste of the artificial sweetener in it, but its not too bad.
Neebs57 - Sep 12, 2014 11:26am
I'm not sure that will help pep, I'm pretty mellow monotone, ha And yes I had a coke zero problem, glad I'm off of it now
salvete123 - Sep 12, 2014 11:14am
One of the first things I tried was adding fireball whiskey to my soylent. It wasn't bad, a decent shot of it added some cinnamon flavor to it, but like other people have said with the extracts, the alcohol flavor seems pretty strong. Not really any worse…
jingleheimer - Sep 12, 2014 10:48am
livingparadox said: If I were to go to the DIY-side? What would be a good recipe to start with, given that I intend on tweaking the values of individual nutrients on a regular (every week or other week) basis? I'd like to not have to reformulate every…
Tetsuo - Sep 12, 2014 9:51am
You could run a trial where you replace the masa harina for rice flour, rice is fodmap safe.
DriveByAbuser - Sep 12, 2014 9:29am
Congrats! My advice is to take everything one step at a time. Start exercising for a couple of weeks, then start changing your diet. Still eat out with your friends just make a slightly healthier choice than you would normally. Give yourself rewards…
arthur - Sep 12, 2014 9:09am
Ari said: Well, methionine restriction has been shown to significantly increase lifespan in mice, so lacking in methionine might be a feature rather than a bug. Yes, I read that too! But I don't how valid this is as I did not find a reliable source.…
nbdavids - Sep 12, 2014 8:48am
Tabbyc, could you post directions for baking plain ol' soylent please? Would solve the keeping it cold problem and make it more portable, yet keep the calorie/nutrient count "right".
Ari - Sep 12, 2014 8:43am
arthur said: Its amino acid profile is almost complete, except for methionine, which it lacks a little bit. Well, methionine restriction has been shown to significantly increase lifespan in mice, so lacking in methionine might be a feature rather than…
AgentSpiff - Sep 12, 2014 8:32am
It is probably avoided because many people with food allergies have had severe reactions to it. I would definitely advise caution in experimenting with it, test it in small batches first.
arthur - Sep 12, 2014 8:14am
Hi guys! I started my DIY in July and I have been constantly testing and improving my recipe by looking for new ingredients! My main focus was nutrional balance and quality (tracability) of the ingredients, and not so much the cost.At some point, milk…
Zenman - Sep 12, 2014 6:51am
How about filming these updates in the afternoon, or evening, or anytime other than the morning. We'd like to see more pep. Just a suggestion...
Zenman - Sep 12, 2014 6:46am
sadrobotsings said: Been drinking Soylent since mid-July. Can confirm, still farting. Yes, so long as we live, we shall fart. But are they worse than before Soylent? I'm talking not only quantity but quality... sadrobotsings said:
axcho - Sep 12, 2014 6:15am
It's possible that the culprit is a higher amount of potassium than you're used to. If you can, try easing into 100% Soylent gradually over time, and if you're lucky, you'll get used to it and the headaches will stop. Or so I hear.
mr_superhappy - Sep 12, 2014 6:06am
Yeah, I'm fairly certain it isn't sugar or salt deficiencies. So I should just reduce my soylent intake? Are there any dangers in continuing soylent or is this fairly common?
axcho - Sep 12, 2014 5:59am
Schmoylent uses about twice as much oat flour as maltodextrin, while Soylent uses about twice as much maltodextrin as oat flour. The high amount of manganese is not ideal, but I prefer that to a carb crash from maltodextrin, which is a deal breaker for…
axcho - Sep 12, 2014 5:57am
My experiments suggested that vanillin was the most likely culprit from these instant headaches. You might try isolating that variable.
G3ck0 - Sep 12, 2014 5:53am
I noticed that the amounts of Protein, Maltodextrin and Oats in Schmoylent are different to the official stuff. Is there anything wrong with making the amounts the same as the real stuff? So much oats seems to give an overdose of Manganese.
hlycrapitsmyles - Sep 12, 2014 5:18am
Is it brain freeze? How cold is your soylent?
AgentSpiff - Sep 12, 2014 5:09am
There might be something to this warmth thing. I drank my official Soylent straight today, did my usual routine of 20 oz breakfast and then a thermos cup every 2 hours. It usually takes some discipline but today I had a cup of hot black tea in between…
Tordenskjold - Sep 12, 2014 4:38am
"insufficient" doesn't cause instant headaches after consuming something More likely something that is "too much too fast"
livingparadox - Sep 12, 2014 4:34am
Are you adding extra salt? Most of the headaches seem to be from the insufficient sodium in Sodium 1.0 (which will be corrected in the next version, I believe). edit: Tordenskjold is better at common sense than I am. You're not the only one who has…
gralinnaea - Sep 12, 2014 4:05am
Thanks Tetsuo, I appreciate the info. The major confusion for now is what to use for carbs, since corn is also potentially problematic.
ravenvii - Sep 12, 2014 4:01am
Jesus. Eight cans of Coke a day? No wonder the improvement was drastic on Soylent.
Neebs57 - Sep 12, 2014 3:27am
New update, better title to not put people off, no new video for today, but I had to report this now, just because its weird how fast it has happened, and wanted to see if anyone else noticed the same changes?
sadrobotsings - Sep 12, 2014 2:58am
Been drinking Soylent since mid-July. Can confirm, still farting.
Muhd - Sep 12, 2014 2:51am
Vicc said: So, 132g of sugar in a day's worth of Ensure Plus (6 bottles, total of 2100 calories), vs. 6g of sugar in a day's worth of Soylent (1 packet + oil, 2010 calories). I'm concerned about metabolic syndrome and my poor pancreas just crapping…
mr_superhappy - Sep 12, 2014 2:25am
I've been on soylent 1.0 for about a week now, and within about an hour of every soylent meal I get pretty significant headaches. What could be causing this? Should I stop drinking soylent? Is this common?
OmegaJeff - Sep 12, 2014 12:05am
@FrankzIt comes to 1g each of taurine and carnitine, and 1,250mg of creatine. But from what I've been reading, with vegetarian protein sources you could safely double that. I looked at other amino acids as well, but even though they all make contested…
Foulzor - Sep 11, 2014 11:39pm
I was mostly talking about the constant trips to see her (she was a couple states away), and all the planning for the wedding. Now she's with me and I know when I'll be at work, when I'll have time to work out, and when I can play video games plus spend…
snesguy2 - Sep 11, 2014 11:35pm
Well I just ate dinner. A glass of soylent blended with a spoon full of peanut butter, a date, half a banana, and some cinnamonAlong with half of a small apple. Currently drinking a glass of fruit punch crystal light that I salted. I feel stuffed actually.…
JeffLeBert - Sep 11, 2014 11:33pm
Foulzor said: So I just got married, and all that chaos is mostly past. OMG. The chaos hasn't even started yet. At least life got a LOT more complicated after marriage. No really, congratulations. If you chose well it's the best ever. I have a 3…
JulioMiles - Sep 11, 2014 11:26pm
Agree with @LauraT -- this discussion is getting pretty far away from this community's core topics, and if it fails to remain civil it will be closed.
LauraT - Sep 11, 2014 11:03pm
Let's keep things civil, folks. This thread seems very close to coming off the rails. Thanks everyone!
Foulzor - Sep 11, 2014 10:16pm
So I just got married, and all that chaos is mostly past. I should be able to stick to a schedule now and exercise regularly. I'm planning on drinking Soylent at work and for meals not prepared with my wife, roughly 33% of calories. I don't know how regularly…
Menno - Sep 11, 2014 10:04pm
Thanks a lot .Finily I could place my fiirst order shipped to the NetherlandsNow I just have to wait
snesguy2 - Sep 11, 2014 9:55pm
Good chance its the salt. I work out in the heat all day, drinking around 2 gallons of water a day, My eating habits were pretty high in sodium as well.
leecauble1 - Sep 11, 2014 9:46pm
You should be golden. If it gets to 10 days and still have not heard email info@soylent.me
croatiansoylent - Sep 11, 2014 9:40pm
You haven't understood anything discussed here. Your mind is completely muddled, no intellectual framing to anything, no cause and effect, no inclination of understanding social structure and economic policies. Merely irrelevant anecdotes. Just horrible,…
LauraT - Sep 11, 2014 9:19pm
I like this idea--I may go buy some Doritos! I have also been eyeing the jar of pepperoncinis in my fridge. Munching on a whole pepper along with a bit of the vinegar they soak in satisfies several of those needs too. I have noticed in the past (before…
t_sim - Sep 11, 2014 9:18pm
Try: http://www.joylent.eu/Depending on your location it might or might not be feasible to get it sent. (EU based guys)
elimford - Sep 11, 2014 9:13pm
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qgroff - Sep 11, 2014 9:04pm
Good point. I actually found that a few spicy crunchy corn chips (Doritos Dynamitas, just because I happened to have them around, not because I'm a huge fan of them in particular) were a big help after a full glass of Schmoylent. Even just 2 or 3 were…
asympt - Sep 11, 2014 8:34pm
Back a couple few months ago, when @spaceman was in the early days of selling, I bought some samples and asked for them to be shipped in baggies, to save on the plastic and since I have shaker bottles anyway. At the time, he was happy to do it; if…
MattCauble - Sep 11, 2014 8:24pm
Hey @rambleman, your order is scheduled to ship out tomorrow. The 1-2 week lead time on re-orders applies for subscriptions as well. I'm sorry about the confusion with this. As for the billing, we update the billing to be 28 days after the order has shipped.…
LauraT - Sep 11, 2014 8:14pm
I found that when I was on Justin Fuel I had strong cavings similar to that. CHEESE! Since then I've realized that there are two other factors in play. I was missing: Something warm in my stomach The feeling of fullness Just recognizing these two…
ntwrks - Sep 11, 2014 8:09pm
OK, thats just silly good. I tried it (used Coke Zero instead)........this is officially my new favorite way to enjoy Soylent
qgroff - Sep 11, 2014 7:45pm
That's interesting, because my diet tends to be a lot of fast/processed/pre-prepared food and I still found Schmoylent very sweet (still haven't had the opportunity to try Soylent yet, c'mon 2 week order!). Like LauraT said, you do get used to it, and…
qgroff - Sep 11, 2014 7:31pm
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Frankz - Sep 11, 2014 7:30pm
@OmegaJeff, have you measured these amounts in mg? And are you adding anything else, or considered anything else?
Endtropy - Sep 11, 2014 7:25pm
Isn't it amazing how quickly our palette adapts to things? Someone coming from every day processed food would probably never think Schmoylent was sweet. After several weeks on Justin Fuel though your palette is completely reset. I went to a Ketogenic…
Endtropy - Sep 11, 2014 7:20pm
I'm sure plenty of people enjoy the bottle per serving setup you have going but have you considered simply bagging your ingredients for folks that would rather reuse sturdier bottles anyways? I mention simply because I have to imagine you would-Save…
livingparadox - Sep 11, 2014 7:10pm
I actually just grabbed it because it was there and I wanted it... No real reasoning behind it. The jerky is actually expensive (because my lazy butt bought it a convenience store), but I was hoping I could stretch it out. I'm still not sure what I'm…
josh - Sep 11, 2014 6:38pm
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Vicc - Sep 11, 2014 5:56pm
en.wikipedia.org Cereal germ The germ of a cereal is the reproductive part that germinates to grow into a plant; it is the embryo of the seed. Along with bran, germ is often a by-product of the milling that produces refined…
Muggle - Sep 11, 2014 5:54pm
Kennesaw said: Keep in mind this is a self selected sample of Soylent users (only people active on this discussion and motivated to answer the survey), which is not necessarily a good representation of the total group of Soylent users. Actually I think…
Vicc - Sep 11, 2014 5:53pm
If @brent ordered in mid-May 2014, it's now mid-September so it's already been 4 months or close to it. SolveDSMV_ARFID said: @Maragakis, @brent isn't a backer: brent said:Ordered 1 week off the website after the original funding campaign closed,…
Kennesaw - Sep 11, 2014 5:46pm
Keep in mind this is a self selected sample of Soylent users (only people active on this discussion and motivated to answer the survey), which is not necessarily a good representation of the total group of Soylent users.
Menno - Sep 11, 2014 5:46pm
simple question?:how to order joylent.....I would like to try,read a lot about it but can't find how to order. Menno
Kennesaw - Sep 11, 2014 5:41pm
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Vicc - Sep 11, 2014 5:37pm
Fell off it, am planning to pick it back up. (I was waiting to get back on it before I posted again. ) The food keeps me full enough, but it seems that I have a hardcore carb addiction. I get massive, overpowering cravings to eat a box of Pop Tarts…
ntwrks - Sep 11, 2014 5:33pm
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