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here is mine, I keep it as a backup just in case: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1xjyeqdv3flcjda/doses.xlsx?v=0swn- you will find it in the 3rd sheet named 'symptoms' I know it's not very readable and has no citations, but I have cross checked everything…

Maybe they are just new? Its a weird bussiness to mess around with fraud. But you never know these days...

https://www.drweilvitaminadvisor.com also does something similar, except he does EVERYTHING for you. Simple. However, if you search some around, you quickly find that vitagenic doesnt pop up much on google, even though you insert vitagenic custom vitamins.…

Yea people should be careful with potassium. I already knew that potassium could be dangerous to tissue from these doses. But i figured people would crush them and mix them with the rest of their soylent, and drink throughout the day. But thx for clarifying…

As a note of caution, I would advise against including potassium in your pill. The FDA limits potassium pills to no more than 100 mg for a reason. As I mentioned in another post: "very high concentrations of potassium ion (which might occur next to a…

I went to WebMD. But now I'm not sure if I have cancer, trench foot or the flu.

Try this That might be useful.

Well i closed the window, so i don't have the exact values, i just chose some rough values compared to the RDA, and what I know about many of the micronutrients from research. But i believe all micronutrients was covered according to RDA, except for phosphorus…

A book to help keep you in the know and pinpoint deficiencies Prescription for Nutritional healing You can look for symptoms and find components you need (minerals, vitamins, etc) or it will give you real food to solve the problem. Sometimes even plants.

I'm curious to see if anyone has compiled some sort of guide for diagnosing deficiencies. I'd like to have/find a spreadsheet, or a flowchart that can be followed to find out what I'm missing and what the symptoms are and save the hours of research.

@inzun: Could you tell us what did you choose and how much would be month's supply?

No, you have to change the values of the vitamins and minerals your self. Was just linking to the page because i might want to have different things in it than you do.

The formula is blank, looks like it reset itself when you linked to it.

Have anyone tried using custom vitamins and minerals yet? On Vitaganic.com you can make your own multivitamin and mineral from scratch. You can make it however you like with many options. The price is a bit high compared to many other "complete" multivitamin…

Would any food/liquid that hit your incredibly acidic stomach acid be turned acidic anyways, nullifying any attempts at "maintaining a ph balance"?

Your first post makes it sound as if you are saying that all vegetables are alkaline. From some basic google-fu it seems as though yes, most vegetables are alkaline and most fruits acidic. On a less meta-thread level, it would be interesting to see…

what do you mean by 'what do you mean with'

What do you mean with veggies are alkaline? All of them? Is it a virtue of them being green?

veggies are alkaline; does cutting them out as a 'middleman' in nutrient delivery have any effects? will my body have to work harder to maintain pH balance without them?

Have Soylent for breakfast only. Take it slow and start small?

The trouble I'm having is probably with the amount of carbs, as well as the fact that I'm not going about it too scientifically to determine the right amount. The times that I have gone almost a whole day on Soylent but then ended up eating something…

Does it tastes like chicken? Just kidding, I decided to put out oil and salt from mine cause it makes really disgusting.

Tried it today with cocoa, but... ney. It's just not for me. Sadly, my overall "flavorless" mixture tastes still like salty, wet towel or something. It seems I don't get near the taste Rob describes in his Blog. I think I will try oats and test if this…

If you love food, soylent definitely involves willpower. Most nights I want real food. The mornings and days are fine. Personally, I feel higher energy and a bit more stable mooded from soylent, but I also use a homemade veggie juice as well which…

Cocoa powder works ok, be conservative with the amount you use though. It curbs the saltiness quite a bit but I prefer plain.

How faithful is your recipe to the original? As people share their recipes we're noticing that some may not be getting as much out of it as they would from the original.

Today I did my first batch, and I used flavorless Whey and flavorless Maltodextrin with Grapeseed and Olive Oil and crushed flaxseeds. I used not too much water - I like the creamy texture, it was milkshake-like. Tasted... interesting. Not bad, but not…

What have people been experiencing as far as the effects an all soylent diet has had on their mood, and overall psychology? One of the main reasons I became interested in soylent is that I have trouble with depression and anxiety, and was hoping that…

I'm a huge fan of cooks illustrated! Though I haven't cooked in a long time I love their scientific approach. Good point on the vanillin. I started with vanillin and lately moved to ethyl vanillin which is more potent. Combined with the creaminess of…

Thank you for these references!Maybe you have other advices for people with no knowledge about biology/nutrition like me?

I'd just hate to buy a minimum of 9 days' worth of a flavored protein, then find that I hate how it tastes. My source for maltodextrin sells packets that are basically one days worth (8oz, ~ 226g. if I add more I might try a slower carb to add, like that…

I don't know if you can find that, but if it helps, I'm gonna use plain maltodextrin and strawberry whey (by Optimum Nutrition).

Wow, where do you find strawberry maltodextrin?

From my personal experience, I need to chug about 1- 1.2 liters of volume over ~ 5-20 minutes to feel totally full. Since my soylent mixture results in only about 500mL per "meal", I drink down the 500mL of Soylent, then immediately drink ~ 500mL of…

I think there should be a DIY category to separate official Soylent discussion from the DIY discussion.

What do you think of Potassium Citrate instead of or combined with Potassium Gluconate as a possible source of K? Seems like you might need less, but I don't know what either tastes like. Anyway, the mix of Na (2.4g) + P (1g) + K (4g) + Cl (3.4g) could…

There are algae based DHA sources, quite expensive of course. 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docosahexaenoic_acid#The_discovery_of_algae-based_DHA'

Yeah, I am using sea salt, and I found out that it wasn't the salt that was the problem. It was the olive oil that was causing the taste problem for me. Currently I am experimenting with using lecithin as an emulsifier.

You could also try sea salt instead of regular salt, its basically same nutrition minus no added iodine and tastes better.

A 60% Pea protein, 40% Hemp protein mixture should effectively give the same benefits as Soy protein from what my research has shown. More info here: http://discourse.soylent.me/t/lazy-vegan-amazon-sourcing-with-no-micro-measuring/498/10

I'm curious about soy-free since some people (like my wife) have allergic reactions to it. The Lecitin emulsifier piece is the only part that I can see that would be from soy. Is there a emulsifier replacement that would be soy-free?

Ben is absolutely right, you should of course take a cautious look at the substances and their amounts in multis. The ones I use are quite overdosed, but I take them for months now and I ate full meals in this time too (B12 is 1000mcg for example),…

I absolutely hate the taste of soy milk

You can actually go wrong with that too - be careful to check what amounts are in your multivits, as some companies put WAY too much of some things into them. I don't have a specific example for multivits right now, but most B12 tablets for example are…

As far as I know, magnesium, iron, calcium and potassium are ingredients you should be careful with. I first thought I couldn't possibly make my own soylent, but like some others I helped myself with a once daily multivitamin - it's measured by the industry,…

Well, don't be afraid of a megadose of Vitamin C: you are already getting it if you are a (any)berry lover, or if you eat anything else during the day after drinking a glass of OJ. Besides, ascorbic acid has such a ridiculously high LD50 that the average…

Has anyone tried Potassium Citrate? My formula has some KCl in, but only to get my required amount of Cl, since I'm getting Na from other places and I have heart issues so I want to keep Na at exactly the right amount. The only issue I've seen investigating…

(and a retail package would consist of 7 daily powder mix containers)with the appropriate quantity of water in a pitcher, stir/shake welland bon appetit. Do you mean you also buy water and a pitcher with soylent?I think it would be better to not have…

I use 8.4 grams of KCl and the taste, while noticeable, doesn't bother me. Some people I know couldn't even handle less than that, so I think it depends on the person. I like my particular mix of Soylent right now, as it tastes a lot like soy milk.

One more general "taste" tip. If you decide to use additional salt try "sea salt". The mouth feel is softer and it does not have the harsh bite that table salts have. Their are many kinds. Cheap to pricy. Just get the basic and see.

Thanks! I find grape seed oil a VERY nice alternative to Olive oil in general. Im tired of the OO taste in things non Italian. Give it a try.

About the strawberry...good to hear, as I'm planning to use strawberry whey \o/

My experience: I'm now dissolving it in 1L and drinking 200ml 5 times a day. I'm not dissolving it all in the morning though. Since I'm eating fat apart (almonds, like rob suggested), I carry it in powder form and add some spoons of it and some water…

I was wondering about this because I'm usually pretty picky on taste. What would be a good source for cocoa? Is it as simple as buying Hershey's cocoa for baking? http://www.thehersheycompany.com/brands/hersheys-cocoa/natural-unsweetened.aspx Doesn't…

http://www.convertunits.com/molarmass/Potassium+Chloride         118g K / 0.52445 K/KCl 0.47555 Cl/KCl = 107g Cl118g elemental potassium / 0.52445 0.47555 = 107g elemental chlorine Tomorrow will be my first day using potassium chloride…

Hey Chris, where did you get the numbers for Chloride in NOW Brand's Potassium Chloride and their Gluconate? It only mentions Potassium on the Nutrition label.

On the salt issue: One way you can still use whatever micronutrients you need without affecting the taste is to buy empty gelatin capsules and make yourself a "salt" pill. I think a little salt in the drink still tastes fine, but the full amount may…

Has anyone tried mixing Soylent with other foods? What foods complement Soylent? What about spices?

Rob, to speak to your frustrations: I agree - just reading about the different nootropic options and people's experiences with them is enough to frustrate you. Very little science behind the anecdotes. Occasionally, you find a few blog entries by…

My daily stack for over 9+ months now: 1200mg piracetam (morning / afternoon) 500mg choline bitartrate / 250mg choline bitartrate (morning / afternoon) ~100mg caffeine 3mg melatonin (2-4 hours before bed) Why: I am a nervous, anxious, constantly…

Update: I've been using 3 g potassium chloride and 1 g sodium chloride (per day), and the taste is fine, with the other ingredients I'm using at least. I'm still low on potassium, and plan to add some potassium gluconate for that. I think 4 g potassium…

soy protein has everything that whey protein has. the reason that whey is cheaper is that dairy farming is heavily subsidised. as to omega 3, linseed oil is an excellent source of omega 3. as always, on a vegan diet, think about your vitamin B12 levels!…

I need to try 3L and add more soluble fiber and see if that works out for me, 4L isn't very convenient as it's maximum capacity for my containers for the most part. I just seem to consume it way too quickly without the extra water. Hmm that may have been…

It's interesting to read how different people use different quantities of water in their soylent. 4L was a bit too much for me, although if I was more active it would be about right. I started with 2L of mix and drank about 400ml at a time. I tried various…

Where do you pick these up? I've seen the name brand ones around, but then seem grossly overpriced.

Keep the fats (as long as they're the good fats). They are not connected to weight gain, and serve important hormone like functions. They are also one of the primary factors in feeling sated. Fats are blamed for weight gain because of the high caloric…

This is interesting. Does this mean you only dilute your Soylent to somewhat over 2 liters total volume, and you only "eat" twice a day? Seems slightly unusual so perhaps I misread. I dilute my mixture to a gallon (or approximately 4 liters) and drink…

I don't do it every day mostly because it's a little psychologically tiring to be extremely focused for a time, and if I have work to do that isn't very mentally stimulating, like answering a bunch of emails, I get bored.

Sweet! You're the man Rob. :]

Soylent is vegetarian, but not vegan. I will be providing a vegan version separately because it is more expensive. People have told me they are willing to pay a little more for a vegan version but I'd still like to offer one using whey that is as cheap…

There's hemp and flax oil. It's unclear if they have the same benefits of fish oil (and it's unclear what benefits fish oil even has, honestly), but they do in fact have omega-3 fatty acids of various kinds in them.

I just got some phenylpiracetam in the mail today. Tried a 300mg dose, seems to incur a definite increase in focus. Will probably make it an occasional addition to my soylent (with choline of course).

@rob you mention nootropic "days"... Is there a reason some days you don't take it? If taken in successive days, does it lose its effectiveness?

Great post. I use vanillin for flavoring with great results. Also, Honey works great to sweeten it up if it's too bitter. Just adjust on the carbs if you are concerned about that. I welcome the extra calories.

+1 recommendation for nusi.org!

I've copied some of the posted spreadsheets into the publicly editable one, including my own. I think this might be a good way for people to see many different ways of viewing the same information (and variations on the information). I've been doing…

Absolutely. I'm using a Blender Bottle, which isn't as good as a blender, but lets you shake it pretty vigorously without spilling.

So I've crossed this list with my own personal list, as well as the lists from alexkirkp, unordinare, dovaka, and karlimcbryde.

While I'm happy about any knowledge being passed on, I would be a bit concerned about the document being publicly editable. Some people might base their complete nutrition on such a document - and anyone could edit potentially dangerous doses of some…

Having a well-blended mixture helps. When I first started, I was using blender from the 70's; when I replaced it with a modern blender, results got better.

You're exactly right. I think it may be due to Ghrelin, the hunger hormone that plays a significant role in neurotrophy. en.wikipedia.org Ghrelin 1P7X Ghrelin( pr. GREL-in), the "hunger hormone", is a peptide produced by ghrelin cells…

It is important to remember, also, that we have been conditioned to panic the second our stomach is empty. This will pass. Having an empty stomach, when you are used to it, brings mental and physical sharpness.

(various)Racetam's- 300mg one time or twice in a day.L-TheanineCholine 200-300mgvinpocetine 10 mgDMAE - 300mglots of fish oil. I play with a lot of different things but I have found that ideal on the reg, anyone on here ever try the bullet proof coffee?…

Actually acute reduction of hunger is more due to Cholecystokinin (CCK) than Leptin. CCK is released as a response to macronutrients in the small intestine. How physically 'full' your stomach is has an impact as well. I found the best way to feel full,…

I like 200mg Pramiracetam 250mg additional Choline (choline is essential and part of the regular mix) 200mg L-Theanine 50g additional carbohydrates I find the Theanine tastes unpleasant so often take that separately. Without the Theanine it's a little…

Use this category to discuss cognitive effects including mood, focus, sleep and memory from substances like soylent, and nootropics. I recommend www.quantified-mind.com for objectivity.

Has anyone tried using pure amino acids instead of protein powder? Whey protein makes it hard to ascertain the source of the milk, so you are likely getting something made from cows that where given a lot of antibiotics and artificial growth hormones,…

We have not gone to a complete meal replacement program as of yet. We have been looking for one that we could stand drinking and had enough of a base that we would add in things like flax seeds or other natural sources that would produce the levels that…

Thanks! Oh, and I'd love to hear from anyone else who cooks for a living, cooks a lot for fun, or is otherwise some kind of foodie on their experience with (or thoughts about) soylent more broadly. Including any skeptical lurkers... Personally, I think…

You might find the taste thread I just started helpful: http://discourse.soylent.me/discourse/t/taste-flavorings-thread/317

Out of maltodex, using potato starch...how's that for an alternative? xDIt's not hard to drink at all, but requires constant mxing or the starch starts to collect on the bottom of the container. Although corn and potato starch are close in the nutritional…

I'm not a chemist/engineer/tinkerer, so the idea of trying to mix this myself is a little scary. Until soylent is market ready, I've been looking for alternatives ...shakes, powders, formulas ... but, I'm trying to avoid things that either have sugar,…

Hi all,I've been DIYing soylent for a few weeks, and here are my thoughts so far on making it taste good. It's all about the macros This is the single most important thing. By mass, soylent is mostly water, protein, carbs, and oil. Yes, yes, your micronutrient…

Fantastic reply, thank you, for some reason I was having trouble finding the TUL for chlorine. It looks like potassium chloride isn't going to work for me because of this... or perhaps I will combine it with some potassium gluconate.

Great description of the taste of the stuff. I use it mostly because it's the cheapest and most readily available. As long as you dilute in enough water, it tastes fine in the soylent, even with vanilla whey. Makes Chocolate flavored mix taste more chocolate-y.…

I just got a container of NOW potassium chloride – as others have said, it contains more potassium by weight than most other sources, which is the main plus. Taste: it does taste kind of like salt, but I'm optimistic that a few grams of it will be fine…

As far as upper limits on chlorine or sodium: If you have any blood or heart condition, to over do sodium, otherwise, you're fine with 140% Na in a day (the tolerable upper limit is about 152%). Chlorine has about the same flexibility, you should avoid…

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Hmm so I just did the math on NOW Brand's Potassium Chloride where you get far more bang for your buck.118 grams of elemental Potassium per bottle107 grams of elemental Chloride per bottle With salt, monosodium phosphate, and potassium gluconate I get…