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For anyone following this thread, just wanted to let you know that my quest for non-headache-inducing, non-fatigue-inducing soylent continues here! Current hypothesis is a food allergy or intolerance. Stay tuned...

I don't even like Harry Potter movies (and I'm not about to read a bunch of books). The best thing to come from those movies was Alan Rickman's satisfying portrayal of a magician. But I do like the term Muggle - it's charming in a neat way. Aside from…

Another meal of Ax Chow for lunch, this time with about a tablespoon of nutritional yeast. Feeling similarly to yesterday at lunch - not completely exhausted, but definitely not as good as I should be. Looking forward to testing the preservative hypothesis…

A new beverage called Soylent was created to provide a simpler food option for those with little time to dedicate to grocery shopping and food prep. The product comes with a dry powder and an oil blend to mix together and promises to provide consumers…

But, Rhinehart says, that's not exactly his vision. “Most of people's meals are forgotten,” he told me. He imagines that, in the future, “we'll see a separation between our meals for utility and function, and our meals for experience and socialization.”…

Switching over to private message...

Okay, should I assume conventional carb/protein/fat ratios, like 50/20/30 then? I think the official Soylent uses that. I use less carbs and more fat myself... Maybe I should just give you my recipe anyway. The oat flour I'm using is gluten free. Masa…

My current diet is unpredictable. Plus too much chocolate. The main thing is that any oat flour would have to be gluten free. Mass harina is grittier right? Actually I could add the gluten free oat flour after the fact since it is a special item…

I use olive oil; some people use soybean oil. I find it's a lot easier to add the oil as a later step (like official Soylent) rather than trying to add it to the powder ahead of time. What's your current diet like? I can adjust the carb/protein/fat ratio…

Haha, glad to be of service, @The! So, this morning I had my Ax Chow with a bowl of spinach salad. Not feeling quite as foggy as the last two mornings but still definitely tired. I'm definitely suspecting it's something I'm eating rather than something…

I can supply it if you tell me what I need.

Okay, so maybe two weeks of DIY, at cheaper-than-official-Soylent prices? Can you supply the oil, or do you need that too?

I am thinking about a hundred bucks worth? Chocolate would be nice.

Cool. So if and when you decide exactly how much you want to order, and what kind (as close to official Soylent as possible, my own recipe, flavored or unflavored, something else), then let me know and I'll see if I have time to make it for you, and…

Me too! Happy to help with any kind of study

halo3 said: good god just say food and soylent. if you insist on calling it muggle food like you're LARPing harry potter or something at least do yourself a favor stick to the internet cause out in public with normal (or should i say regular/real/non-wizard?)…

every community has its jargon. I dont go around telling people about Soylent and say "muggle food". I think we are being oversensitive.

The thing is, it IS muggle food

Since I've devolved this into a general "Soylent Cooking" thread, I'll post some of my latest beauties in here. Hopefully later today. Seriously, this stuff just gets tastier the more I experiment with it...

You must be the fittest man on earth.

I want to get a good idea of what I like, taste and texture-wise, THEN learn how to make it... Just like I would with conventional food... "Ooh, that's yummy, can I get the recipe?". I do have official soylent on order, but we are also moving overseas…

UPDATE: Thanks to this thread, I've started selling DIY at my new website, Custom Body Fuel! Please check it out if you're thinking of buying some... As a DIYer, I'll tell you that it's not as much work as it might seem. But sure, if you only want…

While I wait 10-12 weeks for product, my impatience is escalating quickly. However, I don't want to spend a few hundred bucks on recipe components, scales, etc. I just want to sample some stuff. Priorities would be non- gritty, non- chalky, and gluten…

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good god just say food and soylent. if you insist on calling it muggle food like you're LARPing harry potter or something at least do yourself a favor stick to the internet cause out in public with normal (or should i say regular/real/non-wizard?) people…

The full sentence doesn't change the meaning behind my post which is why I left the rest out. The biggest negative reaction from people I have seen has been that folks assume that Soylent is meant to replace food and the ceremony behind it. People…

2 months of Soylent arriving at HQ

sharkerty said: I choose to think of Soylent more as food If you are only going to take snippets of someone's words, of course they are easy to manipulate to show a point. See how your snippet sounds? Pretty elitist.If I were to use the full quote…

axcho said: And it's forcing me to reevaluate my life and make an effort to actually do fun things again, instead of depending on food for an easy dopamine hit I don't think I've ever read my problem with food in a way that's manifested itself from…

Lighten up, its a joke and fun. Muggle food it is!

web_kunoichi said: I think I might use "conventional food" in conversation with people new to the idea (because I don't want to sound like a member of a cult) and "unsoylent" on the forums. Sure, that's along the lines I was thinking. "Conventional…

Yep. The reason I'd avoid using "traditional food" in a general sense is that most of what passes for "conventional food" these days is very far from what you'd call a "traditional food" culture, in a Michael Pollan sense. Like, the Standard American…

FWIW, Conventional/traditional Food are my top alternatives from this list. As stated previously, none of the terms are likely to be taken as offensive, and there's nothing inherently "elitist" about them. I will probably use them interchangable

Certainly don't want to brand Soylent as food for poor people as gruel implies, even though it is reasonably priced for many at the lower income levels. I like the idea of making Soylent's image upscale and trendy even though it's not upscale in price…

Gruel isn't bad. I got to try some not long ago. (Our Archives Department was doing a "Victorian Healthcare Lunch." I did not try the bread jam, ugh.) It's just cornmeal, honey, and water. Like thin grits, I guess.

Thankfully, Soylent is so not gruel. If it was I wouldn't be anywhere near it.

I'm super okay with this.

Hmmm, yes, it may also be useful to do some isolated food challenges - like eating masa harina (with water) on an empty stomach, doing the same with the whey protein isolate, and so on. I definitely have experienced the "gluten coma" effect as well,…

I'd be happy to help if I can.

The definition you linked: You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument. I didnt do either one so I'm not seeing how thats a great example of an ad hominem attack. If I stated that he never leaves…

You could also try this: http://diy.soylent.me/recipes/quidnycs-significantly-more-realistic-diy-rendition-of-the-official-soylent

After reading the first couple paragraphs of a piece in The New Yorker titled “The End of Food” about Soylent, a new powdered drink intended to replace food entirely, I had to check the post's publish date to make sure it wasn't a product of April Fool's…

Predator said: While you should never resort to namecalling, you hear alot worse than this out in the world, makes me wonder whether you ever leave your computer. Discussions sometimes turn into heated arguments which can lead to anger and frustration…

Me as well. Im 40/Male, grossly out of shape and eat very badly. Soylent is going to be great for me.

@BriBy also has one close to the 1.0 Soylent: http://diy.soylent.me/recipes/bulletproof-soylent-people-chow-with-oat-flour-similar-to-official-soylent

If I would have infinite time and motivation, I may have tried that one ... but I'm not in that position

Check out this: http://diy.soylent.me/recipes/quidnycs-overly-faithful-diy-rendition-of-the-official-soylent

I want this thread for DIY products that make it easier to get so close as possible to the real soylent.So products that don't contain 5000% of every B-vitamin or all kind of superfoods, or additives, whatever.I think you get the idea. Of course, you…

I would also be interested in this, should it occur.

Sounds like you're definitely covering a lot of the areas already, @axcho! From the sound of the consistent slump starting soon after you eat, my deduction would be that it is responding to something you ARE eating, as opposed to something you're not…

Snowman said: I still disagree with the way content is deleted. I have seen other forums (even Disqus that CNN uses which is a cesspool of humanity) where "bad" content is hidden but can be revealed. It makes people feel better when you see something…

biab said: For me it was a deleted thread by rishkoi that included two posts that were about DIY soylent and one of its effects. Both posts were clearly relevant topics for the soylent forum. There were no personal or societal statements, i.e. there…

I'd be interested. 27/Male

Same here. Happy to participate.

If there is a long-term study planned for Soylent, I would like to volunteer.

I'm fit & active. I even enjoy cooking. BUT, as I get older, I'm becoming much more "food neutral." Could be emotional or chemical. Not sure. What I do know is that I'm more excited at the thought of a Soylent diet than I am about several proper meals…

Thanks @keiphyn, that's a lot of good stuff to think about. No need for a food or energy journal - all I've been eating is Ax Chow 1.2, and my energy slumps are timed like clockwork to start soon after I eat and last for several hours. I am taking…

NTordenskjold May 08, 2014 18:12 Hello, I am a Soylent fan, been following the project since I first heard about it almost a year ago. The important thing to remember is that it's your own choice if you want to eat it... you don't have to eat it all the…

I think that the Crohn's exacerbated the appetite issues and made me more wary of food, but from what I remember, I've always been a picky eater and always wanted to be doing something else while I was eating.

codinghorror said: Don't call someone a "race-baiter"Don't say someone "deserves to be mocked"Don't call someone "intellectually deficient" and "entitled idiots" While you should never resort to namecalling, you hear alot worse than this out in the…

tobyorden said: know I'm at the end of the queue with my one-week order with oil, but with how picky I am and having Crohn's disease, I have to do a trial run before committing any significant amount of money. Do you think your condition (Crohn's disease)…

@codinghorror Misusing pictures doesn't do you much good. The XKCD strip more suggests you have the freedom to say what you want, and others have the freedom to respond how they like (keeping it legal, mind). Blind over-the-top censorship is not part…

@codinghorror The "Social Justice Warriors" deleted post isn't the post that brought me to this thread. For me it was a deleted thread by rishkoi that included two posts that were about DIY soylent and one of its effects. Both posts were clearly…

A lot of companies list the restrictions and its up to the consumer to review and determine if its viable. Most health food places do that. Its safe to get it shipped to AUS... all i need to do now is to get a full shipping container shipped here and…

@axcho - There are so many thing to play with here. First I'd start a food and energy journal so you can see if you're experiencing energy slumps throughout the day -- are they timed around your food intake? Are you working out and possibly not getting…

CarltonLemley said: I had this exact thought, but then why wouldn't they just accept that it would cost more to ship internationally and reflect that in the price for international orders? Quite simply, Rosa Labs cannot guarantee that the things will…

Very cool, I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that your doctor thinks this is "a good idea" and is supportive! Good for him for not just having a knee-jerk reaction without actually having any genuine knowledge. I'm not a fan of having anything pierce…

@codinghorror A question about flagging: Does it notify you (or any other admins) if a post is flagged to discuss privately?

Okay @sheltron, I'm using Ax Chow Alpha to experiment with a 30/20/50 carb/protein/fat mix, instead of the 20/30/50 mix of Ax Chow 1.2... I'll let you know when I've had a chance to test it out! In the meantime, I went to the store to buy some more foods…

But seriously.. the reason we have the meta category and topics is to discuss things like this about community governance so people can reach an understanding of why we want a civil community that is welcoming and advances the cause of Soylent. For…

I've done Power90, P90x, P90x3, Insanity, Body Beast, Focus T25, Les Mills Pump, and Les Mills Combat. I've also dabbled in a few of their other programs. I like variety.

p90x looks great and tony the host (thats his name - right?) is hillarious Have you guys tried insanity? It really is. The goal is to do weight training in the morning and insanity (basically a high intensity interval training, the king of fat burning)…

Ironically, I've been reluctant to post in this thread for fear of being the target of another one of codinghorror's sarcastic posts. In any event, I wanted to make a suggestion. Several in this thread have expressed frustration at not having any context…

He said two or three months will be fine, the good news is the test is pretty cheap, I took his advice on what to get, im not sure if it is going to be as in depth as people want, but I have to stick within my budget, and couldnt risk my horrible healthcare…

I really like it. Short enough not to take up too much time yet still kicks your ass (or mine anyway). I made up my own hybrid schedule for this 2nd run through.

Did the doctor tell you how often he wants to test your blood? I'm doing 3 months.

I did P90x3 also. Great program, eh?

I am about to take a 90 day fitness and measurements. I have lost about 10 lbs since I began but am not measuring bodyfat%. I not looking to get that big, just more toned and tight. Goal is to at least lose the beertire (which seems to be happening).…

Thanks for revisiting this topic. I'm impatiently waiting for my first months supply of Soylent, and plan to join the gym as soon as the 1st of the following month comes around. The primary reason for waiting for Soylent is because I cannot control the…

Snowman said: Forums are, by their very nature, a cesspool of the Internet. No, youtube comments are the cesspool of the Internet. Or maybe the Gamefaqs forums. Ugh. Forums don't have to end in tragedy—I've been part of stable mostly positive online…

How are your results? Are you measuring body fat %? I would be interested to see if folks are losing muscle mass as well as fat. I imagine if you calculate the correct calories you are supposed to have a day including excercise this would not be the case,…

I started soylent mid-way through p90x3. I didn't notice much of a difference, however, I was already eating a pretty healthy low carb diet. I am about to start another cycle next week.

I recommend joining/reading /r/fitness getting started`. I plan to do similar by adding more protein to official soylent. Though I need to do some research to make sure the whey I use doesn't push me over the limits for particular recommendation nutrient.

Forums are, by their very nature, a cesspool of the Internet. They tend to devolve into the worst behavior. Trolls come out of hiding and even good people get dragged into saying things they know they should not. At this point I believe the problem of…

codinghorror said: I will admit that particular topic (Social Justice Warriors) made me cranky because it was so mean spirited from the get go and generated an astonishing number of flags. Sounds like the system worked exactly as intended! codinghorror…

I was on painkillers for two weeks. It took a month before I could lift anything heavier than a piece of paper with that arm. I am okay now, full range of motion, and I can carry stuff. But bring out the dumbbells or the curl bar, and game over. That…

I will admit that particular topic (Social Justice Warriors) made me cranky because it was so mean spirited from the get go and generated an astonishing number of flags. (Hmm feature idea, maybe if a topic generates a ton of flags vs posts ratio it is…

Hey, sorry if I am getting annoying on these, but today I went and talked to a doctor about going 100% soylent, and I got my blood work done, we had a very surprising talk that lasted about 20-30 mins about soylent, and my current diet. I sum it up in…

Snowman said: I have seen other forums (even Disqus that CNN uses which is a cesspool of humanity) where "bad" content is hidden but can be revealed. It makes people feel better when you see something like "this post is hidden because 60 out of 70 users…

Here's some of the content that was removed from that wonderful topic, with a mocking title (Social Justice Warriors), inviting people here to attack someone on Twitter. These are complete posts, not excerpts: No. Logic: race-baiters lack it. Jetta…

Thanks @sheltron - I started with the high-carb People Chow 3.0.1 recipe, and adjusted down the carbs while increasing the fiber, in an attempt to imitate the high-fiber and low-carb food I was used to eating (mostly salads with vegetable oils and meat…

Yeah, maybe you have some scarring and just need to slowly work up to it. That looks so painful. If you dont stretch it out and stuff, it tends to heal really tight and less range of motion, it hurts, but you need to flex it and move it around and get…

To me what you're reporting sounds like dietary changes. What is your normal diet like? Your Soylent recipe is pretty low carb, but high fiber. You may be experiencing a negative gut flora response to the combo of low carb/high fiber. I would try adjusting…

If you are concerned about lining up billing and biweekly paydays, use a credit card with enough free credit to pay for it. I have a card I put all my recurring expenses on, and I pay it every month (I always leave a small balance, but that is an aside:…