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Karunamon - Jul 29, 2014 4:30am
Try $99, actually. 23andMe did this before the FDA came in and stomped on them.
Matt88 - Jul 29, 2014 4:29am
This is the point where I try to restrain my inner geek, and that soon genomic sequencing will be less than 1,000USD before long...
Karunamon - Jul 29, 2014 4:27am
One post, while commendable, does not really obviate the pattern of radio silence. I know of at least three active threads on this board right now where Julio or Rob or some other person at RL have been tagged and there hasn't been a response yet. Tags…
biab - Jul 29, 2014 4:03am
Which could be like different versions or configurations of software. For example, when a bug only happens on Windows 8 machines running Internet Exploder. While the humans may not be able to enter all of their genomic info from the beginning, data…
Matt88 - Jul 29, 2014 3:55am
SoylentJesus said: Personal experience tells me that Personal experience is no indicator for effectiveness in many people. It has been used in poultices and a decolorizing for centuries. It wasn't until the late 1800's that someone decided to see if…
SolveDSMV_ARFID - Jul 29, 2014 3:45am
You must have missed this thread: discourse.soylent.me Official Q&A: Side Effects, Shipping, Selling Soylent 1.0 I mentioned previously I was considering doing a Q&A and decided the most effective thing would be to…
nbiller - Jul 29, 2014 3:45am
Thanks. I have fixed it. Looking back at my emails, I definitely ordered in October... There was another confirmation email in December that threw me off.
scotch7 - Jul 29, 2014 3:42am
Rosa Labs was amazingly open and communicative in the days of bloging with the DIY community.  Crowd-funding was over-subscribed, and venture capital came to call.   Things changed a lot on Aprlil 10 when manufacturing started.    Soon over-sharing shifted…
SoylentJesus - Jul 29, 2014 3:11am
matt88 - Again, you are incorrect and should read your own posts first. Especially when they disagree with your thesis. You claim If you haven't ingested any toxin, activated charcoal isn't going to do much of anything helpful for you. That is false.…
noxylophone - Jul 29, 2014 2:21am
Note that I am not unahppy about getting my shirt.
darcagn - Jul 29, 2014 2:10am
Yes, I just dug up the original email because I didn't remember ordering a shirt, and that was the case for me (I received the starter kit early and was promised a shirt due to the delays). So it may or may not answer bbrown6799's question, depending…
noxylophone - Jul 29, 2014 2:10am
Shirt get. Would rather Soylent get.
Duskwave - Jul 29, 2014 2:09am
I use this D3/K2 in my DIY. It's a capsule, so you can open it and dump the powder in.
Benji - Jul 29, 2014 2:06am
darcagn said: I just got an email from Soylent saying that my shirt will be shipping within the next few weeks and to confirm my address. Yes me too, I believe this is for those that got the starter kit earlier but no Soylent for another month or two…
darcagn - Jul 29, 2014 2:04am
I just got an email from Soylent saying that my shirt will be shipping within the next few weeks and to confirm my address.
whimsical - Jul 29, 2014 2:01am
Sorry, another question - I just got an email about getting a t-shirt, does this have any indication that my shipment will mail soon? BC honestly if they'd like they can keep the shirt and just expedite my 4 week shipment, hahaha!
livingparadox - Jul 29, 2014 1:52am
I would have, but I don't know what to change it to. And if that's what he calls it, then it makes sense that wikipedia editors would as well.
Tesseract - Jul 29, 2014 1:42am
melcron said: Humorous that his post saying "you obviously have no business experience." was flagged while your response of "clearly you have no idea what you are talking about" isn't flagged... Actually I'd say that yeah, both sides of this discussion…
Matt88 - Jul 29, 2014 1:21am
@livingparadox, I haven't seen any videos of Rob lately, but if I recall correctly, he calls it a 'food replacement' himself. At this point we can ask who wants to update and correct Wikipedia on the new Soylent version.
Matt88 - Jul 29, 2014 1:17am
While I think it is a good idea, my concern is that some 'bugs' may be caused by the uniqueness of an individual/group of individuals. That is to say some 'bugs' may be caused by those who share a certain genomic sequence.
Matt88 - Jul 29, 2014 1:14am
There is 'being in the mouth' and 'coming into contact with a surface'. The article says 'consume' so you would have to eat or ingest said product, meaning it should be addable into Soylent. While I haven't read much on Xylitol, I do feel I should…
Matt88 - Jul 29, 2014 1:13am
Maybe you need to visit actual medical sites, the links you post are reminiscent of witch doctoring.http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/activated-charcoal-uses-riskshttp://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-269-activated+charcoal.aspx?activeIngredientId=269&activeIngredientName=activated+charcoal&source=1Namely…
Wio - Jul 29, 2014 1:12am
When you have thousands of customers and millions of dollars in revenue, a phone line would be reasonable. When your demand far exceeds your supply to the extent that you are months behind in order fulfillment, then you can afford to have nonexistent…
SoylentJesus - Jul 29, 2014 1:03am
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Tordenskjold - Jul 29, 2014 1:01am
Just saw the first Danish interview about DIY Soylent today http://go.tv2.dk/2014-07-28-ny-helsetrend-spis-pulver-i-stedet-mad-0 (it's in Danish so most of you wont be able to understand it) Good job Anders if you are reading this I assume you are…
Matt88 - Jul 29, 2014 12:58am
I was under the impression that Soylent was using an RFI production center based in the US, and Soylent was tested to meet or exceed US safety and health standards.
Matt88 - Jul 29, 2014 12:55am
I think it should also be mentioned that Soylent also adds in the price of shipping as part of its cost. of the 255 for a subscription, X amount of that is to cover shipping. What I am trying to say is that shipping costs would also affect the cost of…
Rolf - Jul 29, 2014 12:50am
Great idea indeed. 1 2
Matt88 - Jul 29, 2014 12:48am
Then how about you take a piece of your own advice? Activated carbon is typically used as a filter material, to remove toxins. If you haven't ingested any toxin, activated charcoal isn't going to do much of anything helpful for you. Unless you really…
livingparadox - Jul 29, 2014 12:34am
This would have been very helpful this morning when I left my pitcher at home. Oh well... Thanks for the measurements! Hopefully I never again find an occasion to use this information.
Tordenskjold - Jul 29, 2014 12:29am
The real question is if they trust RFI in testing for contaminants. (Last I heard they analyze the ingredients for such)
filupmolina - Jul 29, 2014 12:08am
Yeah, the instructions aren't as straightforward as ideal. Even in the instructions, while they say "fill with water," in the pictures the pitcher is not filled with water. Either way, I use the table near the top of the instructions: photo (1).JPG3264x2448…
SoylentJesus - Jul 29, 2014 12:02am
This is a great question that I never considered until now. This is a very important issue to me personally, and I DEFINITELY want to know what testing is being performed on any foods being sourced from China. China food regulation deserves zero faith,…
SSSS - Jul 28, 2014 11:53pm
1350 ml = 0.00566082969 hogsheads If consuming the standard amount of Soylent, you will be taking in about 0.08 hogsheads per fortnight. In more practical terms, that's about 0.46 firkins or 0.28 rundlets (depending which side of the pond you're on)…
JeffLeBert - Jul 28, 2014 11:44pm
Don't worry @Tordenskjold, I understood what you said and didn't think it was callous at all. I live in the US and I feel we, as a country, are pretty callous to the rest of the world. In any case, we don't need to start any wars here.
SoylentJesus - Jul 28, 2014 11:39pm
Your speculative analogies are nothing but a complete fabrication by you and are based on absolutely nothing at all. They have nothing to do with anything based on reality at all. Speculating negatively about a company on the very forum that they allow…
j8048188 - Jul 28, 2014 11:31pm
I think that when mixing Soylent with water (In the Takeya pitcher) that more than 1.0 L of water is used. The Takeya is 2 quarts, or about 1.89271 liters.
Vicc - Jul 28, 2014 11:31pm
This is an addendum to my previous post in this thread. I am not predicting failure for the company, or wishing for it. It's also possible that after the initial hurdles of developing the product and getting their infrastructure set up, Rosa Labs will…
Vicc - Jul 28, 2014 11:22pm
It really does depend on what the costs are of producing and distributing the product, and what the profit margin is based on what the consumers will pay. If Rosa Labs can get their total cost down to around $8/bag within a couple years, and keeps generating…
Vicc - Jul 28, 2014 11:06pm
Thanks for the math! Gifts aren't actually supposed to be "thoughtful," at least not thoughtful in a utilitarian way. They're supposed to validate and compliment the recipient, or pamper the recipient (in an indulgent way, some enjoyable item or experience…
SoylentJesus - Jul 28, 2014 11:05pm
Youre right, Andreesen horowitz will probably run out of money, and be unswayed to invest further by the massive cash on hand from soylent and the deluge of prepaid orders (10's of thousands of orders already prepaid) Companies with massive cash, huge…
Vicc - Jul 28, 2014 10:51pm
SoylentJesus said: do you think massive order backlogs and massive cash on hand from said PREPAID orders is "bad" for businesses? It depends whether the cash on hand is sufficient to cover the cost of development, production, shipping, and setting…
filupmolina - Jul 28, 2014 10:50pm
Hey guys, I was desperate for this information and spent the day searching for it, but couldn't find something that had exactly what I was looking for, so I took some measurements and am sharing it both for peer review and as a resource for anyone else…
melcron - Jul 28, 2014 10:48pm
Humorous that his post saying "you obviously have no business experience." was flagged while your response of "clearly you have no idea what you are talking about" isn't flagged... Wonderful community we have here
melcron - Jul 28, 2014 10:33pm
As far as I am aware we are talking about Rosa Labs needing to chang their policy to avoid breaking a law, so avoiding punishment in the first place would be the best course of action. Sometimes I'm not sure where these conversations are going
Vicc - Jul 28, 2014 10:29pm
pinging @EveB discourse.soylent.me I find it funny/interesting that people {myself included} want to know exactly whats in Soylent I have a more general perspective on why it's funny. I work in a field where we measure…
SoylentJesus - Jul 28, 2014 10:28pm
What you are neglecting to mention is the minimum 1.5 million dollars invested by VERY high profile VC's (andreesen horowitz is a massive VC player) and other backers (reddit founder) on top of the massive order backlog AND pile of prepaid order. You're…
SoylentJesus - Jul 28, 2014 10:24pm
Dude. Dont attack me. Dude. Spreading false information is dangerous to people's health. complain about the dangerous lies rather than my complaints about said dangerous lies. Dude.
Tordenskjold - Jul 28, 2014 10:19pm
Depending on the law, the intentions can affect the punishment though as far as I know
vanclute - Jul 28, 2014 10:06pm
Karunamon said: Looks like someone's got a case of the mondays. I simply refuse to accept that I was the only person who LOLed and "liked" this response. That's just wrong. Karunamon said:
vanclute - Jul 28, 2014 10:03pm
Cias said: you eat bugs all the time, you just don't know that you do. Actually I'm well aware that I do. However I go to great lengths not to allow myself to think about it. So... thanks for that. As for being "vegan" I actually couldn't care less…
Spud - Jul 28, 2014 9:46pm
ruipacheco said: If only more of us had a case of Soylent. ok, i lol'd at that. ruipacheco said:
Relax - Jul 28, 2014 9:40pm
Does anyone have a link to @rob test results? I've been off Soylent for over a week now. I'm planning on waiting at least another week before I schedule a baseline blood panel. I'll likely wait until I get the results back before I take another stab…
SolveDSMV_ARFID - Jul 28, 2014 9:37pm
"look out! Krenshaw is a mole." ~Sterling Archer
SSSS - Jul 28, 2014 9:26pm
Giving different messages to different people is a good way to ferret out moles, though.
Seaine - Jul 28, 2014 9:26pm
I have received some vanillin to test out any possible side effects for me. I am excited to figure it out because I would love to identify another headache trigger to remove from my diet, but it will have to wait 2 weeks-ish before I can try it. I don't…
melcron - Jul 28, 2014 9:15pm
Tordenskjold said: If the rules were true and applied in this case. I believe most of us know that these guys have operated with good intentions and are not trying to be evil or such... Good intentions don't exclude you from laws. Tordenskjold said:
ruipacheco - Jul 28, 2014 9:13pm
If only more of us had a case of Soylent.
Karunamon - Jul 28, 2014 9:11pm
Looks like someone's got a case of the mondays.
Karunamon - Jul 28, 2014 9:10pm
Ryan said: Yeah. They managed to release two contradictory messages on the same day. The post in this thread says that manufacturing was not halted and the email that was sent out says that production was halted. Unless they have a weird distinction…
Tordenskjold - Jul 28, 2014 9:05pm
I would not call it callous... besides, you would be amazed about how many on this forum are not american. Nationality has nothing to do with any of this, nothing to do with Soylent. This subject is political in nature and toxic in that regard. Besides…
jahhluv101 - Jul 28, 2014 9:00pm
What @kennufs said. Everything we eat the government allows for a certain amount of bug parts to be in them. Here are some examples of what is allowed.
Ryan - Jul 28, 2014 8:59pm
Yeah. They managed to release two contradictory messages on the same day. The post in this thread says that manufacturing was not halted and the email that was sent out says that production was halted. Unless they have a weird distinction between "manufacturing"…
joelshook - Jul 28, 2014 8:47pm
It being in the mouth is the essential part, however, consuming Soylent also requires putting it in the mouth. I kinda figured "two birds, one sip"
kennufs - Jul 28, 2014 8:43pm
About a day for both.
kennufs - Jul 28, 2014 8:35pm
There are insects in our food, and they add up. I imagine different sources give different estimates, but that's all they are, estimates. I have no trouble believing we unknowingly eat pounds of bugs every year. Here's a bit of a fun read from Scientific…
Vicc - Jul 28, 2014 8:28pm
If I were eagerly awaiting a European-produced product and participating in a forum mostly comprised of people from that European country, I wouldn't be so callous as to acknowledge in that forum that I didn't give a crap about their national economy.
eviljim - Jul 28, 2014 8:25pm
For those of you lucky enough to have already received your soylent: 1) How long did it take for your tracking numbers to show progress? I'm not worried, just curious.2) How long did it take for your tracking numbers to appear in your Fedex account,…
asympt - Jul 28, 2014 8:21pm
Well, if only DIY satisfied the same niche. I've tried five kinds so far and nothing I'd care to drink a second day, unlike Soylent. I'll keep trying!, but--
tafoxx - Jul 28, 2014 8:19pm
I'm going to need a source on that "pounds of insects" thing...
casssax - Jul 28, 2014 8:19pm
I stand corrected! Apparently getting the same message out to all of their customers is still something they need to work on.
ruipacheco - Jul 28, 2014 8:17pm
This is actually a really good idea.
Ryan - Jul 28, 2014 7:57pm
casssax said: They never said the 8 - 10 week delay was do to the shipping stoppage. Here's what the email sent out to post backer deadline emails said. Based on early customer feedback, we paused production (now resumed) to make some changes to our…
kennufs - Jul 28, 2014 7:56pm
There is a vegan D3 available, it may be hard to source it in the quantities Rosa would need at first, but I'm sure availability would increase with demand. In the meantime you may want to consider using something like this D3/K2 supplement, a single…
Karunamon - Jul 28, 2014 7:51pm
Absolutely signed. It totally fits with the ideal and spirit of soylent as an engineered product.
SolveDSMV_ARFID - Jul 28, 2014 7:49pm
Reading comprehension! Seriously, people! Why are these statements being made in this thread when the first post is by a RosaLabs representative who has clarified the situation?
Karunamon - Jul 28, 2014 7:48pm
That is quite literally the only reason I'm still waiting. All this would be for nothing if I bailed out now. Anyways, negativity aside, they seem to be really blazing through the month orders. They're already up to September/October in the space of…
alexron42 - Jul 28, 2014 7:46pm
It looks like you put December in the tracker.
casssax - Jul 28, 2014 7:38pm
They never said the 8 - 10 week delay was do to the shipping stoppage. Once they knew that they couldn't get all original backers shipped before the 'new' orders deadline they had to figure out how long it would take to ship all original backers. What…
alejandro_sosa_rf - Jul 28, 2014 7:32pm
I'm going with what lordbinky wrote. I think the 2 week delay in shipping equating to an 8-10 additional wait time is pretty much a lie. As others have mentioned they should just be truthful and let people know that their projection times were way off.…
errantb - Jul 28, 2014 7:20pm
I think it gets to the point where everyone would like something a little different from the product. Why doesn't RL ship ten powders and oil, so consumers can put things together to best meet their individual needs? RL is trying to keep the product as…
Cobra - Jul 28, 2014 7:19pm
The benefits for Xylitol are due its the presence in the mouth, and not from actually digesting it, right? That's what I recall from last reading up on it. You can buy xylitol-base mouthwash, or even buy it xylitol in bulk for cheap and make your own.…
jahhluv101 - Jul 28, 2014 7:08pm
http://m.bbc.com/news/magazine-21847517
kennufs - Jul 28, 2014 7:03pm
Yeah, I hear you. I guess they're concern is with the myriad of different insects that can fall under "grasshopper" for example. They are uncomfortable not knowing if what we call a grasshopper is the same insect as was called a grasshopper under the…
jahhluv101 - Jul 28, 2014 7:03pm
I have posted about this before. It would be a logical and more cost effective move. Insects pound for pound provide among the most protein of any other creature and it takes less resources to acquire it. insects also are high in other vitamins and minerals.…
backXslash - Jul 28, 2014 7:01pm
I'm not canceling and losing my place in the queue, that's really all it is.
wms - Jul 28, 2014 6:53pm
But the entire product isn't vegan, the oil is from fish. Right now you have a choice, soylent+oil, or soylent-oil. My proposal would be to choose between soylent+D3+fish oil, or soylent+D2-oil. Ideally RL would eventually find a vegan oil to ship, giving…
livingparadox - Jul 28, 2014 6:49pm
I see... I was operating from just the biblical requirements (which is all I'm concerned with personally). I keep forgetting that certification has higher requirements. Oy vey... ... That was not intentional, but it made me laugh. But yeah, goes…
Neebs57 - Jul 28, 2014 6:46pm
Well I assume that RFI who has a Chinese base is who they are dealing with. Being a product made in or out of the country is meaningless, our food regulations favor cheap business practices that cause death and health issues too. Plus they have already…
kennufs - Jul 28, 2014 6:42pm
Actually, they're not. While some insects could technically be kosher, in practice they are not. Check out the discussion in this thread for a better explanation, our resident kosher DIY'er for a while was @isaackotlicky, but I haven't seen him around…
cipher - Jul 28, 2014 6:38pm
Quality control is a pretty big concern given china foods track record of heavy metals and melamine contamination. Most manufacturers supposedly have certified facilities but when money talks, bullshit walks. That's why lab testing is so important.
Trent - Jul 28, 2014 6:35pm
Absolutely! There's always outlying cases.
whimsical - Jul 28, 2014 6:34pm
Thanks to @SolveDSMV_ARFID and @ravenvii for the advice! I don't frequent the forums too often so I didn't know I could just tag Julio and notify him directly! Here's to hoping I get my shipment before the end of the summer, it would be really nice to…
Muggle - Jul 28, 2014 6:33pm
Tordenskjold said: Also, as a european, your question is meaningless to me The fact that they source some of the things from China concerns me. Not to the point that I wouldn't consume Soylent. I'll still do that, once I get it....But given some of…
Tordenskjold - Jul 28, 2014 6:29pm
Fish Oil was from Iceland. Also, as a european, your question is meaningless to me
smeggot - Jul 28, 2014 6:29pm
I understand and like that position - it's what I would do, for the most part. At the same time, right now I'm in this kind of mindset: I put out the money so long ago that it is a relatively small deal which I don't care about any more, and I still want…
errantb - Jul 28, 2014 6:28pm
I have to keep an eye on my vitamin D levels. When originally tested, I was at 7ng/ml and it took a few months to increase it. With supplementation, I can maintain it at 19-29ng/ml. I'm neither vegan nor currently on Soylent, but I don't think Soylent…
ravenvii - Jul 28, 2014 6:27pm
Orders have a tendency to 'fall through the cracks'. Tag @JulioMiles and he should get you sorted. EDIT: Heh, the above mass-tagging works, too
SolveDSMV_ARFID - Jul 28, 2014 6:27pm
whimsical said: I ordered 4 weeks of Soylent on May 21, 2013 and I live in the Midwest. Is there any reason why people who ordered in June & later are getting their 4 week orders before me (ie, the guy from IN who ordered in mid June 2013 and received…
cipher - Jul 28, 2014 6:26pm
I expect at least some of the bulk materials like the rice protein and maltodextrin to be from China. You just have to hope they test every batch to prevent using contaminated product in soylent.

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