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I replied to their response email "Hi There, The email below said you would be responding to my question in 1-2 days...That time has passed and I wanted to make sure this email didnt fall thru the cracks.. to recap..I have 2 weeks of Soylent on the…

Re: small amounts -- I already removed the small amounts that didn't make a difference. The cereal does make a difference because it is heavily fortified with vitamins. The way you would do it is to only have it once a week, or something. Luckily my…

did u use the same email? if im reading your post right...you are REORDERING more soylent to follow your initial 2 month backer order...and they are saying you will wait 10-12 weeks like a new order versus a reorder? doesnt sound right...am i reading…

I'm not sure how to interpret the USDA database with respect to raw vs cooked. For instance, take beans. Cooking beans means boiling them in water. So the calories per gram go way down, because you have added a bunch of water. The carbs per gram go…

I wonder what something like a a scoop of sugar-free Kool Aid might taste like...

@isaackotlicky Yes, I have been using the raw beans and rice data -- I was contemplating cooking it, though. I will have to check out what kind of difference that makes.

My backer kit arrived on 4/29 ... but there has been some mixup on how my soylent I actually ordered at this point I guess. I've been trying to reach @JulioMiles on and off with intermittent success on a problem with my original order and how to amend…

The question I subscribed but I am not a "first subscriber" since I have two months on order already (part of the original backers from 2013). It is unclear to me if this means I will start getting the subscription in 2 to 3 weeks or…

Sunflower seeds are really easy to harvest, as well. Clip the flower head, dry, and shake. Looks like chia is similarly easy - dry, crush, sieve. Both of these things could be automated, seemingly easily.

I get ya. Well we just have to hope they can scale up fast enough I guess.

its assuming that the 1 week orders will start their subscriptions soon while a 16 seek order won't need more for quite a while. You can quickly clog up production on resupplying reorders before you have scaled up production to handle it. I ran some sample…

That's assuming someone with 4 months starts their subscription right away ... Not that I'd blame them, but I don't think all of them will.

false. They could meet the 16 week orders /now/, but then they have up to 16 people reordering quickly, which will slow down getting new shipments out later. you have initial gains but by medium term you are slower.

There kind of is one built into the largest to smallest scheme. For every 4month order they've filled in the last week they'd be able to fill 16 week orders in the same time even without any production increase. It really depends on how much ramping up…

Given that July is only six weeks away I think they may still be working 1 week orders, but maybe not. I believe the turbo switch is about to get hit and we are going to start seeing orders come through. The turbo switch being them scaling up production…

Unless they have some hidden turbo switch they are going to press, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if 1 week preorders are still going out in July. I think those best situated to be "soylent scalpers" will be 1 month backers who try to order a ton extra…

Never heard of flavor apprentice... do tell more...

Frankly I think more likely some knucklehead will place a huge order thinking they can make a quick buck, and find prices have imploded to the same as retail, and they'll lose money. I doubt this window is going to last very long but hey, I've been wrong…

Just in case anyone was wondering like me, and it was probably a dumb question, but I wanted to make sure. My initial order was with oil because I didn't change it in time, my 28 day subscription is vegan. I asked if this would effect it at all, in being…

Sounds pretty easy. http://longtimemother.hubpages.com/hub/How-I-grow-and-harvest-organic-Chia#

Seeds may be easy to grow, but how easy are they to harvest? Soybeans also fall into this category, which is why I removed them from the recipe.

Filterdecay said: Also by putting in a 2 year supply order I just bumped everyone else back by however long. Except that there would need to be an absurd number of people doing this to make an impact on the rest of us. Just to tread water with the…

Late Friday into Sat morning...I contacted support about my reorder...email reply said "please allow 1-2 days for a response." Going on day 4 now (gave em a shot at it being WORK DAYS) but alas...no response yet...just another example...of a deadline…

I am SO going to do this with a batch of my Soylent 1.0 when it gets here. (I just have a normal ice cream maker, not a cool soft serve thing like @j8048188.)

Oh, and then in a few weeks just go dead quiet. When he starts to complain on ebay, make a statement that your car was expected to arrive at FedEx, but it had to go in for repairs for a couple weeks and that if he wants his soylent sooner, he should probably…

that makes sense so long as 1. Reorders cant reorder a year supply after burning through a year supply in 2 weeks by selling on the grey market.

Large->Small then Oldest->Newest was only promised for backers and pre-orders, orders placed Now do not fall under that category. The only thing concrete about new orders is they will have lower priority over people with soylent. So if someone were…

They already set up a subscription model

ok we are both speculating here but I assume large orders are being fulfilled first regardless of when the order was placed. If I purchased a 2 year supply I assume I would receive delivery soon™ and have time to flip that order. Also by putting in…

Filterdecay said: Right now the incentive will be to purchase as much as possible and "flip it". Except that by the time you get your large orders of Soylent to "flip," a significant portion of the rest of us will be likely to have received our shipments…

im certainly not trying to troll the boards. I would trust what you say more if people were limited to purchasing 1 month supply only every month. Right now the incentive will be to purchase as much as possible and "flip it". Those of us who ordered…

Filterdecay said: Nothing in the history of this product Because this product has currently has next to no history to begin with. This is an unreasonable observation bias. Before the iPhone was released, they had a hard time meeting the public response…

you guys are assuming that production can keep up with demand. Nothing in the history of this product has shown that to be true. More people buying larger amounts means less going to others. Without a subsciption model we could have multiple people…

Still haven't gotten that ice cream maker, but I think I may this spring. It's been 84 degrees outside for days on end...

vanclute said: Actually, I can imagine that an abundance of supply on ebay will actually drive the resale price of it down greatly. I'm an economist, and I approve of this message. Well done. vanclute said:

sharkerty said: I tried the unsweetened version and just couldn't switch to it. Most flavored protein powders add Sucralose to sweeten it. I use the Novus protein, add caoco powder and Sucralose, and it's just as good -- But cheaper! sharkerty said:

jrowe47 said: Give that the RDA represents an acceptable daily amount, and that excess potassium is trivially excreted if your kidneys are healthy, and my general trust that there would be a lot of conflicting and vociferous debate if the studies had…

addy said: it'd save both of us some time Give that the RDA represents an acceptable daily amount, and that excess potassium is trivially excreted if your kidneys are healthy, and my general trust that there would be a lot of conflicting and vociferous…

If you're making the argument using this, can you summarize or give me a list of the relevant papers. I spent ~10min reading through but saw weak justifications and poor studies, but didn't want to devote more time to making sure I was getting everything…

jrowe47 said: ...reduce the adverse effects of sodium chloride intake on blood pressure... So if 4.7g seems high, it's partly because we need the extra potassium to offset all the extra sodium in the typical Western diet. A soylent-based diet with…

http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10925&page=186 some science group said: On the basis of available data, an Adequate Intake (AI) for potassium is set at 4.7 g (120 mmol)/day for all adults. This level of dietary intake (i.e., from foods)…

There seems to be very little evidence of this in scientific literature?

Nearly everyone is deficient, and it results in higher rates of strokes, poor health, and so on. The RDA is so high because that's what your body needs for optimal function.

The question isn't what happens when you don't get enough, it is why the recommended amount is so high? It is hard to get those levels even with a high potassium diet, and if they are accurate then nearly everyone must be deficient.

It's actually not something that will cause immediate illness, but chronic deficiency can cause trouble with your health, and amplify other illnesses. Potassium is involved in every cellular function, and is a critical component of all that your body…

True, for me the lactose is less of an issue, so concentrate is a great option - it's significantly cheaper without much of a change in the actual nutrients.

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I have seen this and it is awesome. Unfortunately, I am hooked on the chocolate flavored isolate. I tried the unsweetened version and just couldn't switch to it. When I get my amazon subscription discount (15%) my 5lb tubs will come out to about $9/lb.…

Hmmm, it says $220 for me... Can you share a direct link? ... Oh, you're talking about the whey protein concentrate, not isolate. I'm not good with lactose, so I'll stick with the isolate for now.

sharkerty said: What I really need to do is find some cheaper protein. I've got some around here...Ahhh... Here it is! 25 lbs. of whey protein for ~$160, making it the cheapest I've found so far. Bonus points (for me anyway) for being kosher. Though…

Ah, what kind of protein are you using? I'm using Hard Rhino whey protein isolate, 22 lbs at a time with the coupon code VALUE for $189.99 and free shipping.

I'm interested as well. Oddly enough I just cut my potassium a couple days ago in my DIY. Today was the first day of the batch with half the potassium. I was going to be all science like, but forgot I had changed thing until I read this post.

My first few weeks probably took me an hour because I was literally measuring out to the .00g. Then I realized how little an effect .05g would have. Even if I was measuring a 1g ingredient, it's still 95%. But with a 10g ingredient it's 99.5%. Easy decision…

Yeah, I guess I have more ingredients to measure. I've also figured out the right measuring cups and spoons for each ingredient too - it does make a huge difference in speed. And haha yeah, 20 g of chia seeds is 2 T for me too! I could probably afford…

I only have to measure 8 ingredients. I also put a sticker on each ingredient so that I don't have to reference anything else (it's all memory now). I've learned the right size measuring spoon to get me closest with the 1st measure. For example, 20g of…

Hmmm, that's impressively fast. Maybe my digital scale is just slow...

You would be surprised at how easy it actually is. I spend 30 minutes a week making the mix for a week and 5 minutes an evening mixing the next days grub. That's a total of 65 minutes for 21 meals or an average of 3.1 minutes per meal. The hardest…

I would be surprised if that were true, my biweekly mixing takes one hour if I'm taking my time, it can also be done once monthly but I like to experiment more frequently than that. The daily routine tops out at 60 seconds

This is impressive looking and it is also why I do not do DIY. This is more work than what I currently put into cooking on Sunday night. Bravo for your diligence.

Molasses has a lot of potassium, as do sweet potatoes and spinach. Good question, still.

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I have been wondering about this myself. The RDA seems like an absurdly high amount, or at least "high potassium" foods aren't really high potassium.

I have done a little bit of googling and looking in nutrition textbooks, and I haven't been able to find any sources that explain how the RDA of potassium got to be so much more than any person normally eats. It's something like 8 bananas. The RDA…

The problem isn't actually a crash, after all. But adding fiber via psyllium husk powder does help for slowing down absorption. And it's pretty cheap!

@axcho I scanned through the thread quickly, may have overlooked it, but have you looked at adding carbs that are more complex so they have a lower DE rating? They don't absorb as fast so you shouldn't get sugar rush/crash. Here's the type of product…

Its called a public forum. Do you not expect people to reply to you? LongLiveMuggleFood

Yep that's correct. I placed my reorder the very next day after receiving our initial batch, as I had no doubt we liked Soylent, and I didn't want to risk running out. Supposedly it will arrive this week... will update if that proves to be the case.…

I was in fact breathing out of my mouth when i read this. ARE YOU STALKING ME??

My flavor of the day is cinnamon. 1tablespoon Saigon cinnamon in 20oz of Soylent ™ 1.0. I used the nutribullet whipping blade to get a good mix. It's a cinnamon shake or perhaps horchata. Salud.

Yes, he is. He ordered the vegan version and received the first month worth a couple of weeks ago.

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halo3 said: do yourself a favor stick to the internet cause out in public with normal (or should i say regular/real/non-wizard?) people you'll sound like quite the douche Why in the world would I care what some mouth breathing nobody thinks of me in…

Thanks @sheltron, I'm so excited! @NoFlames, actually I originally attributed this fatigue to a sugar crash (see this thread) so I actually started with high carbs and have been gradually decreasing the amount over time. That helped, because most of…

@axcho in your experiments have you specifically targeted increasing carbohydrates since you are having energy shortages?

Since your body only needs a minor amount of EPA/DHA (and there's some ongoing debate even with that), a 14% conversion rate from a much larger amount of Omega-3 ALA might be perfectly fine. Not all fish oil is DHA and EPA, even in the supplements themselves.

Joshua said: P.S. Don't forget about the obscene constipation you'll experience by consuming zero fiber. Slight caveat - constipation is unlikely on an all-liquid diet. With Ensure, you're much more likely to have newborn like liquid poops due to the…

Fantastic, thanks! Arming myself with info for when people go "why not just buy ensure?"

@NoFlames was kind enough to give me a sample of his Udo flaxseed-based oil to try as a substitute for the canola oil I'd been using. The interesting side effect however was that it definitely imparted a distinct flavor to the Soylent, with only 3.25…

I've tried both the scoop and pitcher methods and the pitcher method sure gives a nicer consistency. But it's the flavor that's really tripping me up. I'm struggling to down anything at all of it, so I'm not really seeing myself "teaching my tastebuds…

Are you saying you have received your first order and are already expecting to receive your 1st reorder?

Sounds like you're making some progress! Congrats!

halo3 said: out in public with normal (or should i say regular/real/non-wizard?) The word you are looking for is "muggle". There that wasn't so hard was it? Now drink your potion and let's go watch the quidditch halo3 said:

Something I did with flavorless protein powders in the past was add the flavored syrup things that usually goes in coffee.http://shop.torani.com/?gclid=CKGf7KWJpr4CFVQFMgodNUoAug

SilverSnake said: Anyone have any newly discovered ways to flavor 1.0 Soylent? I'm really not liking the taste and I haven't found anything that seems to work. Tried bananas, stevia and cocoa powder (but maybe not enough of any of them?) and none of…

Anyone have any newly discovered ways to flavor 1.0 Soylent? I'm really not liking the taste and I haven't found anything that seems to work. Tried bananas, stevia and cocoa powder (but maybe not enough of any of them?) and none of them does anything…

NADA yet............

Here's the nutritional breakdown for a 2000 calorie diet of just Ensure: http://diy.soylent.me/recipes/augh-ensure-time The drinks are very short on Protein and Omega-3's, contain absolutely zero fiber, and have serious deficiencies for the following…

From some quick googling, it seems difficult to find vegan Omega-3 sources that aren't just ALA (of which, apparently only about 14% is converted) I did find some algae supplements that actually have EPA and DHA. So once I start with Soylent I plan to…

I don't recall seeing an exact side-by-side comparison here, but if you search this site for "Ensure" I'm sure you'll find plenty of related threads. Basically, Ensure is only slightly better for you than a can of soda. Someone did mention a special…

I'm interested in buying someone's DIY as well. Signed up just to express interest. Can't figure out how to send a private message from the browser on my phone.

Ah, makes sense. Sent you a message.

Either I'm a lot less smart that I thought or I'm not able to send you a private message because I only created my account today. @Rishkoi and @axcho can you both please PM me? I guess all I'm wondering is how willing you are to do it and what price…

Look, the Soylent team has made only ONE mistake that is worth people being angry about, and that's the decision to ship the orders in a different order than they were received. None of the reasons they gave for doing this make sense from the customer's…

Not a detailed one. But I did scour the local commercial meal replacement shelves looking for a stopgap. What I found was that the bottles included 200 calories (I'd need 7 per day minimum) but more importantly they had a lot of sugar and other additives.…

Has anyone done a side by side comparison between soylent and commercial meal replacements?

Okay. I did four ingredient trials today. A 1/4 cup each of oat flour, masa harina, whey protein isolate, and a scoop of GNC Mega Men Sport, each mixed separately with a 1/2 cup of water. Taken separately every few hours this afternoon. Yum. I'll go…

@isaac_norwich, yeah, I'd consider it. Part of the reason I decided to do this for @marion is that I underestimated how much work it would be, but... heh, it's also kind of fun. If you click on my profile, you should see a button to send me a private…

The person who missed their media appearance got an apology from Julio. We can't even get him to pop into THIS thread to say anything!!! This makes it seem that someone missing their media appearance is more of a concern to him than backers who've been…

Not anymore theyre not lol @The

Let me get the first batch in my belly and I will holler at ya.