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Vanclute, always the ultimate resource. One thing I will say is that I was surprised there wasn't more stratification with my Soylent until I made a batch without the blender. I'd estimate the separation was reduced by 80% or so when using the blender.…

For my DIY, I started off using a blender, but found it to be hard to clean. I had to take apart everything to clean the little bits under the blades, and I felt like I lost a lot of soylent to the large surface area of the blender's pitcher. My usual…

I just wrote to another forum member in a PM who asked a similar question of me... here was my answer: So my experience with a blender ball was actually that it didn't help much. In fact, some of the powder got inside the ball and kinda solidified there,…

I believe blender balls are pretty popular.

Awesome, thanks for being so helpful!

Sure @muldrowe, as long as you take a Vitamin K supplement, you should be fine using whatever oil (olive or otherwise) you want. Here's the supplement I use: MK-7 Vitamin K-2 - it's a capsule of powder, which is handy because you can empty it out into…

@axcho I would really like to substitute the soybean for olive oil, is there something I could add to the three weeks I already received from you to make it meet the carb/protein/fat ratio. If it's a bit over 2000 calories that's fine.

Hmmm, interesting. I've been wondering about replacements for GNC Mega Men Sport powder, so I think I'll look into this... Thanks.

Yes, good point @warnett, I should probably mention that in the future. Olive oil is not equivalent to soybean oil, because olive oil does not have as much Vitamin K (and the taste is more bitter). If you want to use olive oil, you'll need to ask me…

I believe Soybean Oil is basically what most stores call vegetable oil. I searched through 3 different health food stores for Soybean Oil and they all looked at me like I was an idiot. Got home and look at the vegetable oil in my cupboard and it's made…

@muldrowe, for the Plus, 5 tablespoons is what it takes to get the right carb/protein/fat ratio for the recipe at 2000 calories a day. But if you don't need that many calories, you could drop it to as little as 3 tablespoons, but I wouldn't go any lower…

I also received my order from Axcho! Wondering if I truly need 5 tablespoons of soybean oil daily, it's an awful lot! I'm currently using olive oil because I couldn't find soybean oil, does this serve the same purpose?

I've seen other posts about fermentation causing other side effects (exploding in container). This could impact whether this is a solution to go camping with, or can be used in places without adequate cooling solutions. It was unpalatable when it was…

Hey @FlipFlop ! Ca c'est un grand tableau !Petites questions:- Pourquoi est-ce que tu ne différencies pas entre les acides gras (saturé, mono, et poly insaturés) ?- Même question pour les fibres soluble/insoluble. J'ai lu quelque part qu'il fallait viser…

Well I've got down on my gChat status "Advanced Fuel Source: pending...", but that's probably a bit wordy

Bonjour à tous,ça y est, j'ai passé le cap ! Je viens de faire tous les achats J'ai hâte de tout recevoir pour commencer à m'alimenter en Soylent maison. J'ai nommé ma recette "Full Drink" et vous pouvez trouver mon tableau ici : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuuukIdq006TdElkMC1hbV9pbDVYVjFnZWZvbnlBSmc&usp=sharing…

"Superior food" is too offensive. It's like calling Linux/Unix superior to Windows, it will automatically trigger reactions from haters and those who disprove/disbelieve.

Merci @Tronce pour ta réponse rapide et détaillée. Ton premier lien Tronce said: AJCN - ALA and LA renvoie vers la page Nutrimuscle, est-ce que c'est normal ? Tronce said: Qu'entend-on par total? Dans ce document, page 860 du pdf, l'apport en…

Some ideas: superior food, refined food, new food.

Yeah I really like "elemental food". It doesn't really communicate much as far as what it means, but it's still a great name. I still think the name most people would understand without any explanation is "adult baby formula", although it's also a little…

Salut @arthur arthur said: Il semble que l'apport en omega 3 de l'huile de lin ne soit pas suffisant (seulement des ALA, mais pas d'EPA et de DHA). Bon, il semble que le corps peut faire la conversion mais l'efficacité de cette conversion est limitée.…

Also, athletes need more potassium. Low potassium can definitely cause muscle cramping. Between the low sodium and low potassium, you were destined for issues. Note that the diy soylent adds in, for many recipes, potassium citrate. You may want to…

Elemental food has a great ring to it in my mind, especially juxtaposed with conventional food.

I'd like to be able to click or hover over a micro nutrient and see all of the ingredients contributing to it and how much they contribute.

Aha.... gotcha. And like most things with nutrition I imagine everyone's needs are individual as well, so it's probably hard to pin down into a one-size-fits-all solution.

Agreed. It's not at all a deal breaker, but it's probably good to know going in that satiation does not necessarily mean you're good to go. I suspect we'll find more and more idiosyncrasies of a more scientific approach to nutrition as we go.

Would you care the share your PB cookie and brownie recipes?

vanclute said: Well, if EPA and DHA are only possible to get from animals, then I have never had any in my entire life (41 years). I'm kinda leaning towards them not being so essential, if that is in fact the case. I think that's where Though technically…

Damn, too much DHA then. When you have EPA:DHA 1:1 then it reduces the efficacy of EPA. We dont' synthesize EPA and DHA well from ALA, I guess they say this above. But yeah, 1g of EPA is good, but more than 300g of DHA isn't helping, it's slightly…

Interesting about your bike ride. I went mountain biking with some friends the other day, and of course brought my Soylent. Didn't think much of it, but this is considerably more exertion than I normally endure. About halfway along the ride, we stopped…

Well, if EPA and DHA are only possible to get from animals, then I have never had any in my entire life (41 years). I'm kinda leaning towards them not being so essential, if that is in fact the case.

Salut @Tronce! Qu'est-ce que tu penses de la discussion actuelle concernant les différents type d'omega 3 (ici et ici) ? Il semble que l'apport en omega 3 de l'huile de lin ne soit pas suffisant (seulement des ALA, mais pas d'EPA et de DHA). Bon, il…

I feel like I remember seeing exact ratios on omega 3 ratios, but I can't directly confirm it, as I don't recall exactly where off the top of my head. As far as EPA/DHA being included, the macro overview confirms: Fish Oil (6.4g) - Fish oil is a popular…

It's important to know which Omega 3s we're getting. 2.5 grams is great, but of what? ALA is pretty much not what we need. EPA and DHA are harder to come by, ALA doesn't convert easily to EPA, and EPA doesn't convert easily to DHA. We need EPA to…

UPDATE: Added link to days 3 & 4

nickp said: @unsynchronized interesting feature, thanks for the suggestion. I'll add it to request list Cheers! I have noticed I spend a lot of time bumping up one thing and bumping down another, so a few assignable see saws might be just the ticket.…

I understand. A thorough exam is certainly in the cards for me if I continue to see this kind of spike. As it stands, I'm inclined to make 100% sure I haven't sullied the results somehow first, since I know the first thing my doctor will say after I tell…

The DIY site should now work properly with https: https://diy.soylent.me/ @unsynchronized interesting feature, thanks for the suggestion. I'll add it to request list

No disrespect intended. Every day I see people who have used knowledge they gleaned from the internet to make poor medical decisions. Being fully aware of your health history as well as current status is important for healthy living. That said my point…

Making random assumptions? That stings a bit as I've done my very best NOT to make assumptions. I also haven't made any broad statements aside from the fact that my blood sugar reading was abnormally high one hour after one meal. As for your other questions:…

I have consistently used room temp RO water. Mainly because our tap water is very high in minerals especially calcium and magnesium.. When I visited Rosa Labs in April we used good ole LA tap water and it was fine.

en.wikipedia.org Glucose tolerance test Glucose tolerance test (aka glucose challenge test) is a medical test in which glucose is given and blood samples taken afterward to determine how quickly it is cleared from the blood. The test is…

That's really cool information to know. I'd only ever used "cold" water from the tap (though filtered) and I add the oil midway through the mixing process. Sounds like temperature and timing could really play a big part! I wonder how many of the articles…

About two weeks ago I was able to try one day of Soylent v1.0, and I have to admit, I wasn't a fan. I took the vegan bag and poured it in to warm water, then let that chill for the night. In the morning it tasted terrible and was ridiculously gritty,…

@Claus - you don't need a PayPal account to order from @Spaceman - just a credit card. (the payment is processed via PayPal)

Oh, Ivar - yes, it's for Netherlands... @Claus - it will be shippend on Monday. So the order from Sweden is a morning surprise:) Thanks, Mattias!

No, to the Netherlands actually. But my name can't be familiar to you because I don't have a PayPal account so I let a friend order it for me (Ivar Hamoen), we're still waiting for a reply about the shipping costs actually

I'd be happy to get it without the scoop. I'm waiting on a one month supply so I will get a scoop with that. I plan on mixing up the one day's worth all at once so I won't even need the scoop. I'd just like to get the chance to try it while I'm waiting.…

Thanks @gueste for recommendation.Thanks @Claus for order. To Sweden, right?

Status Update.So far I've been trying an every other day DIY soylent adventure, 2 days total. The good: Man does that stuff fill you up. I'm eating the same calories and macros that I do with traditional nutrition but I really don't even feel like I…

genaio said: They never said it was low, they said it was low compared to other maltodextrins. But I can't find the source at the moment... They said both - it was from the Macro overview: Our chosen maltodextrin is derived from corn and has a DE…

I've noticed this same paradox when it comes to energy. I've felt like I was overall a bit lower than normal, but completely lacked the ups and downs I'm used to. For example, it's been difficult to get myself excited to go out on my bike, but I've completely…

Depending on the recipe, yes!

For those interested: I'm using the non-vegan blend. I make my Soylent with 48oz of water, one bag of Soylent, one bottle of oil. I've also started adding one gram of salt (still experimenting with this number so it may change) to help with cramping and…

Merci à tous pour vos réponses, j'attend la fin de mes examens pour me lancer ou nonBonne journée.

Dutchie here. Very interested. Just ordered from Spaceman as well, so I will have to compare.

I am interested please.

@Spaceman is already selling in Europe, that's where I bought, but if you live in Europe and can offer other Europeans lower shipping costs than those who are producing their product in the USA, there sure will be enough demand I think!

Yes, absolutely interested!

I second that.Bring me your soylent !

Yeah I saw where they talked about the maltodextrin's lower number... But there's also been talk repeatedly of some ongoing study, measuring the overall GI of Soylent itself. But maybe they'll release that only after selling as much as possible

If it is similar to the real Soylent, yes I am interested

They never said it was low, they said it was low compared to other maltodextrins. But I can't find the source at the moment...

@CarltonLemley are you using the vegan version? If so, are you using any kind of substitute oil? Even low GI carbs (in sufficient amounts) can spike your glucose if you don't eat enough fat with them.

pmjm said: For reference, I also pre-ordered Duke Nukem Forever when it was first announced in 1997. So we have established that you are a glutton for punishment, is that it? LOL Glad you got your Soylent... now tell us what you think about it!…

The Soylent, it's killed you! But seriously, how many people are measuring this? Where is Rosa Labs' much touted study showing a "rather low" GI?

So I was walking through Costco today and I ran into one of those people giving samples. In this case it was for a powdered base for a vitamin drink called "EcoDrink". Since the GNC Mega Man has way too much of quite a few B vitamins and is fairly expensive,…

Thanks for the info on the Takeya pitchers, that's perfect! And @JulioMiles no big deal at all! I'm just thrilled to get my Soylent after having some serious doubts over the past few months, but you guys did it! You came through! For reference, I also…

these delays are making me bonkers...i dont even know anymore

just uncancelled my order...meh

Yeah, those are the ones that we use. Sorry that your SK hasn't been delivered yet, @pmjm -- we're using USPS for starter kits and it looks like they might take a day or two longer in some cases. If you PM me your name/email I can look up your order…

the takeya pitchers are the same ones from the starter kit. i actually have both a soylent starter kit pitcher and a normal takeya pitcher. i compared the two just now, and they're the same height/width. i'm using my normal takeya pitcher for some diy,…

They are indeed the same. I think the 2liter/2quart equivalent is a common US approximation error.

Hmmm... good point, I hadn't noticed that there was possibly a size discrepancy. They looked exactly the same in the picture and I couldn't find any others like them on Amazon so figured they were the same. Maybe they aren't... can anyone confirm?

At first I thought that selling DIY would destroy the whole purpose of the DIY concept, but inspired by @axcho's success in the US, I am now considering to sell my DIY in Europe. Obviously, I'd first have to know if there would be any demand. So, any…

vanclute said: Just FYI you can actually get the official pitchers, just not in green... I did a review of the pitcher (based on my starter kit) actually here... http://iamsoylent.com/reviews/amazon-com-takeya-airtight-drink-maker-pitcher-jug-set-of-two/…

I saw the Takeya pitcher sold at my local hardware store the other day. (Cole Hardware, Mission street, San Francisco)

The amount amount is not as important as the amount of powder as that is where the carbs are. Ideally, a single serving of soylent would be consumed and tested.

That obviously depends on the Soylent to water ratio, but 16 oz is most likely 1 serving, if not less.

Agreed. We also need to need to know how much is being drunk at that sitting? Is it just 1 serving?

Yeah, one hour after the meal is probably way more interesting than two hours. I look forward to any results. Also, your blog is great, keep it up.

But 176 mg/dl is extremely high, even right after a meal with many carbs. It should definitely not happen on a regular basis.

I bought the takeya pitcher through Amazon. I wish it was glass, but other than that, it works perfectly. Air tight as advertised and holds a full days worth.

it is natural for a blood sugar spike after any meal with carbs. Higher carb meals will cause higher spikes. It's also natural for your body to process those carbs and return your levels to normal. In folks without Diabetes, this typically happens within…

I've been testing after most meals, but only at the two hour mark on Soylent. You can bet Ill be testing at both intervals for awhile now.

That's indeed very high. Could you check if this happens again the next time you drink Soylent? Rosa Labs claims that the glycemic index of Soylent is very low, which (as you probably know) would usually not result in such a blood sugar spike. I'd like…

Congratulations! You do not have diabetes. One set of tests will not tell us much, however, these kind of results over many meals might be concerning. I would be curious to know what happens after you eat a large portion of pasta. I am diabetic and…

I just had a 16 oz serving of Soylent and checked glucose levels after one hour (typically I'll check after two but I checked after one this time). The reading (154) was so high that I checked again (176) and then again (174). I monitored my blood sugar…

Just FYI you can actually get the official pitchers, just not in green... I did a review of the pitcher (based on my starter kit) actually here... http://iamsoylent.com/reviews/amazon-com-takeya-airtight-drink-maker-pitcher-jug-set-of-two/

What I did until I received mine was get a 2L bottle of juice and dump it, then use a food funnel to get all the soylent into the bottle. Another alternative is something like this. You can get them at grocery stores for about 8-10 bucks. That's what…

Hi everyone, Received my Soylent today! (8 week backer, 5/22/13, west coast) Unfortunately I did not receive a Starter Kit (or even a shipping notice for one). I'm not complaining though, just glad to have received what I have! Curious if anybody (especially…

Last time I dropped it cold turkey, the headaches stayed for like a month. I'm not okay with that. Besides, I use it for a slight pre-workout boost. I'm not very anti-caffeine, I just didn't need to be consuming the amount that I was.

Try putting it in the refrigerator overnight. I read that helps.

If you're having trouble weening yourself off if it then I would just suggest going absolute cold turkey. The insane headache and sick feeling may last around 24 hours but if you can get through that you are done.

Salut @hug0 ! Oui, on a tous le même problème… l'investissement de départ est important. Ce que j'ai fait, c'est acheter le minimum syndical en ligne dans des quantités moindres (myprotein.fr propose par exemple des sacs de 1kg de maltodextrine) et de…

I had a friend try some the other day, he immediately asked me if it was mixed with milk. When I told him no, he said "Oh what's it mixed with then?" I said water and he did a double take. Totally couldn't believe it, thought for sure it was in milk…

Ah gotcha. Yeah then you're already on the way to eliminating it entirely I would bet. I tended to have pretty erratic energy myself pre-Soylent. It's still amazing to me now when I look back at my dat around 8 or 9pm and realize I've been going non…

I did indeed try to stop caffeine, but my body just wasn't having it, I have significantly reduced my intake from where it was pre-Soylent, and may eventually try to wean myself all the way off of it, but I don't have any kind of boost-crash cycle. I…

Great update! One thing to maybe consider is that if you're regularly supplementing your Soylent with caffeine, then you'll never quite be able to get off the boost/crash roller coaster. I stopped all caffeine cold turkey when Soylent arrived, and then…

Salut @arthur ,désolé je pensais t'avoir répondu. Alors en fait, j'ai créé mon propre tableau, mais je me suis basé sur celui de tronce pour le faire, donc c'est quasiment le même