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Karunamon - Sep 18, 2014 7:30pm
I'd imagine the number of people reselling is minimal.
qgroff - Sep 18, 2014 7:00pm
The way I see it: if you do, you're part of the problem. However, despite still waiting for my day-one backer order, I think it would be reasonable to do it once, so that they can get a sample that's more than just a taste, and then see if they think…
nwoll27 - Sep 18, 2014 6:56pm
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Spaceman - Sep 18, 2014 6:46pm
Shipping calculators from USPS & UPS planned for this week. I will let you know if you're ready to test.
Muggle - Sep 18, 2014 6:45pm
http://diy.soylent.me/nutrient-profiles/calculator
Muggle - Sep 18, 2014 6:38pm
Check her PH? www.amazon.com API Freshwater PH Test Kit, 250 tests per Kit About this item
inod3 - Sep 18, 2014 6:18pm
I suspect the question would be whether to limit the quantity on the reorder priority. Should I be able to use the privilege to order 2-years of Soylent for my resell business each week? But how would you implement such a limit without hurting those feeding…
leecauble1 - Sep 18, 2014 6:10pm
Maybe starving isn't quite precise enough. As a beta tester I found being without Soylent : frustrating,disappointing ,inconvenient, disatisfed with other food. I also felt a craving for Soylent. Once it became a regular part of my diet I've felt like…
subsume96 - Sep 18, 2014 5:14pm
http://www.amway.com/Shop/Product/Product.aspx/Nutrilite-Double-X-Vitamin-Mineral-Phytonutrient-Supplement-Refill?itemno=A0244 I've been on Amway's Double X supplement for about 3 years now, and I have nothing but good things to say about it. First…
livingparadox - Sep 18, 2014 4:57pm
Beano does, in fact, do wonders on gas. If the gas is still significant, you'll need at least three servings per day. It took me 4 servings, and it still didn't completely eliminate the issue. But it made a huge difference, and eliminated it during…
dakota0626 - Sep 18, 2014 4:27pm
As someone who has being doing DIY for some time, I have a hard time believing they were actually "starving". I am able to switch back and forth from DIY Soylent to real food quite easily, after all Soylent essentially is a form of food, just liquid…
qgroff - Sep 18, 2014 4:23pm
@JulioMiles My shipping label has been printed. That's good! As of today I've been waiting 485 days so far. That's bad. It has the correct address listed. That's good! It only has one week supply listed. That's bad. My initial backer pre-order was for…
MattCauble - Sep 18, 2014 3:51pm
When we ran the Beta program the biggest complaint we received was running out of Soylent. We had friends that told us they were starving and were having a hard time adjusting back to regular food. Soylent makes other options else seem like a huge waste…
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 3:51pm
cipher said: Pretty sure they use a maltodextrin with a lower GI Doesn't make a difference. The two popularly cited figures are that the GI of maltodextrins ranges from 85-105, or ranges from 105-136, depending on the source of the information. I'm…
cipher - Sep 18, 2014 3:40pm
Pretty sure they use a maltodextrin with a lower GI
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 3:39pm
Karunamon said: I wonder why they chose to go with such an absurdly high dose? Because they need enough to generate a measurable effect. This is preliminary research trying to identify mechanisms, not later-stage research of a confirmed effect trying…
Duskwave - Sep 18, 2014 3:34pm
I would definitely (and did) start with Axcho - Marion Fuel is my recommendation, personally, and my DIY (after some experiments) ended up pretty similar to that.
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 3:27pm
cipher said: It quite possibly is. IF the macro ratios are properly balanced and the the fiber remains high the glycemic load will be quite low still. Actually, the GI for maltodextrin is higher than sugar. So replacing some maltodextrin with sugar…
Karunamon - Sep 18, 2014 3:11pm
casssax said: but it should be noted that realistically this is a very high dose they are using and one that wouldn't be consumed by a typical consumer. I think this bears repeating. Nobody except the most die-hard of the (diet) coke addicts are going…
ravenvii - Sep 18, 2014 3:09pm
OMG, sugar is so bad! So I'll opt for something worse! The masses can be so retarded.
Karunamon - Sep 18, 2014 3:03pm
Patience, please. The wheretos and the whyfors of Rosa's order fufillment process have been described ad-nauseum. As a 1 week backer from last October, I'm getting a kick out of this comment
HankScorpio - Sep 18, 2014 2:57pm
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature13793.html I've generally been a proponent of artificial sweeteners, but this new paper (out today), in the world's most prestigious journal challenges the notion that they are innocuous.
nwoll27 - Sep 18, 2014 2:56pm
GlitchWizard said: I can't fathom to guess why. Depends on your previous diet and anything else you're eating now, etc, but common advice for improving scent and flavor "there" for men and women is to cut down on caffeine and acidic foods (soft drinks,…
cipher - Sep 18, 2014 2:51pm
It quite possibly is. IF the macro ratios are properly balanced and the the fiber remains high the glycemic load will be quite low still.
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 2:24pm
DarkbyDarkWest said: I still hope that eventually sweetener packs will be separate, to allow us to add our choice of sweetener. I'm a honey and cane sugar kind of guy. Actually, I think sugar is the solution, for Soylent. I suspect they're trying to…
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 2:21pm
Also, there's another thread here about this paper: discourse.soylent.me Sucralose linked to glucose intolerance http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329872.600-artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-glucose-intolerance.html…
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 2:18pm
Actually, this paper focuses on saccharine, not aspartame. They found the same effect with aspartame and sucralose, but it was strongest with saccharine, so that's what they did the study on. Here are some more lay-press write-ups with details, for those…
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 2:15pm
Actually, I'd say this particular study is very good because it specifically points to the mechanism of action. Although we don't yet know why this altered mix of gut bacteria causes glucose intolerance, it is clear that the it is definitely caused by…
DarkbyDarkWest - Sep 18, 2014 2:03pm
I still hope that eventually sweetener packs will be separate, to allow us to add our choice of sweetener. I'm a honey and cane sugar kind of guy.
casssax - Sep 18, 2014 1:41pm
the fact that the researchers gave the FDA's maximal acceptable daily intake of saccharin to the human participants — about 5 mg / kg body weight per day — isn’t ideal. In a real-life setting, that dose would be the equivalent to a 150-pound person consuming…
nwoll27 - Sep 18, 2014 1:33pm
Uhhhh. Hrm... First?
openend - Sep 18, 2014 12:20pm
Might be related (or not) Taking some vitamins in higher doses (not even dangeroues ones) will give you a stench when peeing. At least for some of us.
Tordenskjold - Sep 18, 2014 11:35am
Perhaps tell a little about your body like others have said... It is likely the sugar difference that caused the change. Nothing is wrong with flavoring your Soylent... You could even look for sweet tastes that don't increase the calories... Don't…
livingparadox - Sep 18, 2014 6:46am
Can confirm... Soylent-less days are terrible... There was another user here who had to go nearly a week without due to traveling or some such. Her sentiment was the same: no soylent is no fun.
livingparadox - Sep 18, 2014 6:44am
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livingparadox - Sep 18, 2014 6:42am
@BoDuke @Tesseract could you transfer the replies on my previous Soylent Experience to this one and close the original? I ran out of the available space in topic body, and did not have the foresight to claim the first X replies for future updates.…
livingparadox - Sep 18, 2014 6:24am
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I'm fully aware what beano is and how it works. What I meant by 'killing off" was that by allowing little-to-no complex carbs into my lower digestive tract, I was starving out the problematic bacteria. I was fully…
Karunamon - Sep 18, 2014 4:32am
Well, if you're trying to run on all-or-mostly soylent it would throw your diet off pretty horribly to run out.
phazei - Sep 18, 2014 4:21am
Just got my 8 meal sampler pack in! UPS had an issue with the package splitting open, and said if anything was missing they'd send it back, but I checked and all the bottles seemed intact and sealed, though the bag as a bit powdery. (Edit: Demographic:…
LauraT - Sep 18, 2014 4:18am
Roger that. Thanks folks!
axcho - Sep 18, 2014 4:16am
The thickness of Clean Fuel comes from the psyllium husk powder, of which there is about twice as much as Schmoylent. The solution is just to add more water, as @Ichabod13 suggested!
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 3:25am
I say keep it here if you want to share it with this community. Start a new topic , claim the first several replies, and copy the current blog into the first one of the new post. Change the old one to a reference to the new topic - a manual redirect,…
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 3:21am
Beano doesn't kill bacteria. Gas tends to be caused by complex carbs that your body can not digest. These pass deeper into your intestines where, eventually, some bacteria can digest them. But the process of digestion produces gas. Beano is an enzyme…
MentalNomad - Sep 18, 2014 2:22am
Actually, this study was specifically looking at the changes in gut bacteria caused by the sucralose, which is undigested and so gets through the whole system, affecting the gut flora. This study also suggests the effect can be reversed by killing the…
BulkBeast - Sep 18, 2014 1:38am
Good that means they are still shipping at least. Hopefully I'll get my email soon saying they are shipping mine.
Spaceman - Sep 18, 2014 1:30am
I can agree with you that some angles of view point us to the trees not worth to bark ,but we deal with a new category on the food market and I try to evaluate all opportunities.
Alrecenk - Sep 18, 2014 1:05am
Just got tracking data on My Soylent. Looks like it'll be arriving on Friday or Monday. So, that's almost a month even from "verify your address"(Aug 18) to "we've shipped your Soylent"(Sept 17).
inod3 - Sep 18, 2014 1:01am
Mushrooshi said: I wanted a response from Rosa Labs themselves about reordering policies. I would have found that interesting as well, but I don't think we'll see one. If they come out and say it's fine for you to buy as much as you want to sell to…
pennig - Sep 18, 2014 12:48am
It would seem the 1-week order shipments have resumed! I'm a day-1 backer, and just got my shipment notification. Huzzah!
davecortesi - Sep 18, 2014 12:48am
There is also an "official weight loss thread" in the Experiences section: discourse.soylent.me Official Weight Loss Thread Please use this thread to discuss all weight loss goals and successes!
brandons - Sep 18, 2014 12:04am
Duskwave: Yours looks like it might be a reaction to the vanillin as it is in soylent and the mega man you mentioned also having similar symptoms. CitizenKane: yours might be a gluten reaction as wheat is in both the other products you mentioned and…
Mushrooshi - Sep 18, 2014 12:04am
Thanks for the responses everyone. I was asking this because I felt there were fair points on both sides and I wanted a response from Rosa Labs themselves about reordering policies. I was not looking to ask if I could do this and see if I could get away…
handys - Sep 18, 2014 12:01am
At this point, I'm wondering if it's been an excessive amount of time should we be posting or attempting to contact you guys? It's been about 14 weeks since I ordered and I haven't heard anything. Is there anything in the works to keep customers updated…
ravenvii - Sep 17, 2014 11:28pm
I'm down to 2 bags of Schmoylent. Things are looking dire! Glad to hear you're back on your feet! LauraT said: Glad you are feeling better, and glad that you didn't fulfill orders while sick! Ha! True! LauraT said:
Duskwave - Sep 17, 2014 11:21pm
No proof that those don't do the exact same thing, they just weren't among those tested this time. There's been indications for years that anything sweet-tasting without enough calories to back it up will cause glucose intolerance, no matter the sweetener.…
PuzzlePiece - Sep 17, 2014 11:04pm
Thanks for the quick response!@MattCauble
LauraT - Sep 17, 2014 10:50pm
Glad you are feeling better, and glad that you didn't fulfill orders while sick!
JulioMiles - Sep 17, 2014 10:45pm
Hello @tzalewski: If you placed a Soylent crowdfunding order, your subscription will be activated 1-2 weeks after receiving your original Soylent order. If you did not place a crowdfunding order, your subscription will be activated 4-5 months after…
AgentSpiff - Sep 17, 2014 10:41pm
I can understand that Rosa needs the buying power to expand production, but I do think they need to re-evaluate their fulfillment system. A lot of potential customers are paying inflated prices out of desperation because they don't want to wait 4+ months…
livingparadox - Sep 17, 2014 10:09pm
Oh, also forgot to update everyone with a successful experiment with Beano. It takes me over 1-1/3 tablespoons per day to eliminate the gas, but anything over a tablespoon drastically lowers the gas, nearly eliminating it until 7 or 8 pm. The gas was…
timdorr - Sep 17, 2014 9:53pm
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329872.600-artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-glucose-intolerance.html Since Sucralose is the primary sweetener in Soylent, I don't think this bodes well for it's inclusion in the official formula. It might be time…
Prairiepanda - Sep 17, 2014 9:49pm
I have been replacing at least one meal per day with 100%Food Double Protein(both Chocolate and Organic flavors) for about a week now, and I'm very happy with it! I'll start with a few points that apply to both flavors:1) The first time I had a full meal…
timdorr - Sep 17, 2014 9:48pm
Correct. There is no confirmation on the subscription page. It's all done behind the scenes. If you order a subscription and don't get an email within 2 weeks, then email them about it. But I just set up my subscription and it all came through in about…
livingparadox - Sep 17, 2014 9:42pm
I tend to forget to keep up with external blogs, too. But I'm not sure how sustain it here, since I've hit a max limit...
kennufs - Sep 17, 2014 9:25pm
As to keeping the updates here, or moving them into your own blog, I personally tend to stay here for this kind of thing, I don't seem to keep up with experience threads that aren't on here... but maybe I'm just lazier than most. As to a hybrid Soylent/soylent,…
LauraT - Sep 17, 2014 8:45pm
I applaud Mushrooshi for soliciting opinions and starting this discussion. Thank you! My way around the lengthy wait is to order via www.custombodyfuel.com. I ordered Soylent on July 5 (2014) so I won't be getting it for several months still. I'm…
Ichabod13 - Sep 17, 2014 8:32pm
I mix up a day and it lasts me 3 days. If it's thick though, add more water. I can usually tell by how it pours. It should pour smooth and not thick pouring. It's never too late to add a bit more water and reshake it.
LauraT - Sep 17, 2014 8:26pm
I recently introduced my mom to the soylent concept. She had me order a week of Clean Fuel Premium from @axcho. She gave me feedback that her mixture was really thick. Here's her response to my question--how has your soylent experience been going?…
tzalewski - Sep 17, 2014 8:16pm
bump @juliomiles @MattCauble I am seeing my next billing date as Jan 2015 also for a month supply subscription. Can I have an update on my order? Thanks
livingparadox - Sep 17, 2014 7:59pm
Also, on the DIY front, I've decided the best balance of optimizations and convenience is going to be a hybrid of DIY and Official. So I'll probably work on a simple personal recipe over the next week or two and have it conjunction with my official Soylent.…
livingparadox - Sep 17, 2014 7:53pm
Week 15. I have official reached the limits of how much text discourse will let me put into a single post. I now wish I had claimed the first 2-3 posts of this thread, as I'm now unable to add beyond this. I'll either make a new topic for part 2, or…
Zenman - Sep 17, 2014 7:51pm
I got my address confirmation email 9/6, it said I should reply by 9/10 if my address had changed. Haven't heard anything since. Just went to the Soylent backerkit website and it says the project is now closed. Ordered one week in September 5th,…
axcho - Sep 17, 2014 7:40pm
@cohron, I'll be putting the new recipe on my site soon, at which point you can order single-day samples. Right now I'm just busy catching up on orders because I was sick all last week.
chris_bair - Sep 17, 2014 7:39pm
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chris_bair - Sep 17, 2014 7:37pm
Doesn't take effect until December Engadget says: The FTC has issued new rules requiring that retailers ship within a "reasonable" selected timeframe, or within 30 days if they can't provide a date. If they don't meet their targets, they'll have to…
cohron - Sep 17, 2014 7:29pm
@axcho - Looking for a sample pack/order - either a 1 full day per recipe or perhaps 500-600 kcal per recipe. Cost isn't as big a big factor as taste. Trying to find a few recipes/orders I can stick with and tired of the DIY route. Full disclosure: I…
smeggot - Sep 17, 2014 7:29pm
But it's not like it's some essential thing that would cause people to die if they didn't have it; it is a one time use product, just one which you can use all the time as well. I'd understand if it was insulin or something, but these people were surviving…
smeggot - Sep 17, 2014 7:25pm
Welp, I changed my shipping address, and Soylent just confirmed it. Just waiting for a shipping confirmation from them now.
HankScorpio - Sep 17, 2014 6:34pm
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature13793.html I've generally been a proponent of artificial sweeteners, but this new paper (out today), in the world's most prestigious journal challenges the notion that they are innocuous.
axcho - Sep 17, 2014 6:18pm
Thanks @asympt. I also recommend trying that simple recipe. You can also use pretty much any multivitamin if you want, it doesn't strictly have to be that one.
axcho - Sep 17, 2014 6:17pm
@uberjer, that's interesting, I don't know why you'd get a sugar spike from the new Schmoylent - that's not something I've experienced yet. It would be slightly less sweet, though, because rice flour is less sweet than maltodextrin.
j8048188 - Sep 17, 2014 6:13pm
Just set up a subscription, and make sure you use the same email address as you backed. They should detect it and put you order in the reorder-shipping queue.
treadmill - Sep 17, 2014 6:11pm
My email is not registering on the official soylent page for re-ordering. I'm worried that if I create a new account I'll be forced to wait for the 4-5 months and not be recognized for my early backer status. Any ideas? Thanks for the help!
Endtropy - Sep 17, 2014 6:03pm
Just because the system allows it doesn't mean it's okay. Do you go through life basing all of your moral decisions on if you could get caught or what the consequences would be? If everyone made decisions with those as the sole reasons the world would…
Canyon - Sep 17, 2014 5:28pm
They have a commitment to those that have already received their orders, as I'm sure many of them are living on a high-percetage Soylent based diet. This isn't a one time use product. It only seems unfair because you're on this side of the fence, once…
BulkBeast - Sep 17, 2014 5:21pm
They need to change the wording in the address confirmation email. Cause when they say "we will be shipping your soylent to you within the next several weeks." To me that means within 3 weeks from the email they will ship it to me.
dakota0626 - Sep 17, 2014 5:19pm
Exactly. In fact, Matt had just posted in another thread that they slowed shipping to ensure reorders were being handled with priority. That alone says a lot for me, they'd rather delay new orders by half a year than delay reorders by a few weeks to a…
dakota0626 - Sep 17, 2014 5:17pm
Because reorders are more important to them than new business it appears.
EveB - Sep 17, 2014 4:56pm
I can't see this happening at a scale that really matters in the greater scheme of things. Once Soylent / Rosa Labs gets their production / shipping to resemble a true consumer delivery system, then these exceptions will no longer happen. If I weren't…
inod3 - Sep 17, 2014 4:53pm
How do you think the Ebay suppliers get their supply? I can't imagine it matters much if you need Soylent for your friends, or for your "friends". I doubt they would revoke reordering privileges, but then again if they did it would probably affect you…
MattCauble - Sep 17, 2014 4:23pm
Hi @grumm! Apologies for not being completely open about the shipping schedule. We have been focusing on making sure our re-orders have been going out in a timely fashion. We will indeed be shipping to all backers within the next 20 days and you should…
grumm - Sep 17, 2014 4:11pm
Soylent adopted the "give us more money, get your stuff sooner" ideology early on. It is how their system works, regardless of what others think of it. If you reorder and get a few months extra prior to people who have been waiting in line for over…
horsfield - Sep 17, 2014 4:11pm
Lecithin It keeps the oil and water from separating. It takes a little experimenting to figure out how much to use. It depends on how much oil you have in your soylent. To little and you still get an oil slick on the top. To much and you get a yellow…
livingparadox - Sep 17, 2014 4:10pm
I think it would be best if you didn't right now. Reorders seem to be taking up a good portion of the production output now, so you would be contributing to the delay. If you really want them to be able to try it, you could offer some of your own supply…
Endtropy - Sep 17, 2014 4:05pm
Ask yourself this, if people who ordered 3 months ago are waiting for ANY amount, how do you feel ethically about allowing your friends a short-cut? If you think that is a legitimate use of the system and the way it's structured more power to you, but…
grumm - Sep 17, 2014 4:04pm
@JulioMiles @ana @MattCauble Can we get some info regarding the current state of fulfillment? Many people are suggesting there may have been a slow down of some sort. I know that as of today, there are 20 days left for all backers(non-international)…

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